Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by leon » 20 Oct 2012 01:04

say what I see. scandinavian far right nut case.

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by loyalroyaldaz » 20 Oct 2012 07:08

Interesting to see after last nights disgrace if Roberts still refuses to wear the shirt.
Kick it Out is not just about Racism and he would do well to remember that.
He runs a very real risk here of actually destroying the organisation that he and others called for and HAS done much to improve the situation over the years.
How can he bang on about Racism in the game on one hand yet on the other make a stand AGAINST the kick it out campaign!
This is so much bollox over pretty much two incidents in the English Leagues over the past season but somehow he has turned it into an attack on the black population and even suggested the FA themselves are racist.
IMHO he has got carried away with his little radio show sideline and gone over the top with the controversial stuff that these radio shows throw out to get an on air debate raging.
Play your Football Jase, represent the organisation that lets be honest hasnt done alright by you hasnt it, leave the talkshow shite until you have hung up your boots and get behind the campaign that is already fighting this cause.
It wont be the same listening to "The big bad wolf in sheeps clothing" over the stadium PA and it just doesnt have the same ring to it !

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by marcusopp » 20 Oct 2012 07:38

TheSiege If you wind up someone on the pitch by calling them fat, ginger, slow or incontinent (all descriptions), that is O.k. If you call them Black (also a description) this gives them the opportunity to describe you as Racist and cause problems for your club! Racism (in the current situation) is the new diving!!!!!


You've got some issues man. While i agree that mocking someones physical 'abnormalities' is a blokey thing to do, usually because it's something considered bad, i.e. being fat. Being a different race isn't a bad thing, and the fact it's used as an insult says something about the mindset of the person making the comment. In their head it is bad to be black, otherwise they wouldn't use it as an insult. That's the real issue here, it's not about sticks and stones etc.

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by Bill Oddie » 20 Oct 2012 09:35

When Jason joined the club I saw him as an ageing but quality player who would hopefully bag a few goals for us in the twilight of his career. Now I see him as an attention seeking, angry, black man with a huge chip on his shoulder always playing the hard doneby victim.

If he put as much effort into playing as he does into arguing with authority and causing a scene he would be twice the player. At Swansea he was only on the field for a couple of minutes before moaning and arguing so much with the referee he was instantly booked. Apparently he said to the ref, "do you know who I am"? And once he was shown a yellow said "youv'e only booked me it's cos I'm black" ?

I'm sorry Jason but you currently need to zip it shut, once you have finished playing you can do whatever you want or join whatever political activist mob you fancy. The racism issue has come a long long way in the last 30 years and now racism in football is much more taboo that in mainstream society which says to me that Kick it out has/is working and your stance and attitude is helping nobody except your own ego and misguided cause. I can just imagine your teamates shaking their heads with despair and embarrassment as yet another Jason Roberts headline scream out !

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by Royal Rother » 20 Oct 2012 09:42

Whatever they might say in public I suspect the club will not be happy and that he'll be moved on at the earliest possible opportunity.


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by RobRoyal » 20 Oct 2012 10:05

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yeah, but then, you is white



Oh yeah - nobody can be racist to white people.


That's right, it can only ever be racism if it is done by a white person against a coloured person.
If for example a coloured islamist person rapes a woman because she "is a whore who doesn't wear the burkha and has no man present", then that is not racism, that is just a) cultural enrichment or b) cultural differences/misunderstandings. Either way it is a fantastic thing and we should all be glad to see it happen.


That's what people say about the rape of white women by muslims then is it? Seriously, why don't you tell us all the story about the Islamo-rape that everybody applauded? Or just stop talking bullshit, all the time.

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by ankeny » 20 Oct 2012 10:09

Not well put granted but there is a lot of truth in what Ideal says.

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by Rex » 20 Oct 2012 10:24

Since when has racism been purely about colour. Ideal talking shit (fresh or dried for balance and equality) shocker.

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by Hampshire Royal » 20 Oct 2012 10:26

ankeny Not well put granted but there is a lot of truth in what Ideal says.


Is there bollocks!! What about when those arseholes were convicted of multiple rape in Rochdale? I don't recall anybody saying that it was down to 'cultural difference' except the defendants themselves.

My opinion is that the shallow gene pool in places like Norway are to blame for the ridiculous racist, right wing views held by people like Quisling, Breivik and Ideal. The whole world condemned Breivik for what he'd done, including all of Norway. I wonder what the Norwegians reaction would have been if the people he killed had been largely Islamic, rather than white!!


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by facaldaqui » 20 Oct 2012 10:37

Interesting that several of those opposing Roberts on here seem to be saying that racism isn't that much of an issue, while making racist and other intolerant remarks themselves.

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by Hampshire Royal » 20 Oct 2012 10:43

In this country, racism although not dead, is a lot less severe than it used to be. Who would have thought a few years ago, that a Somalian refugee called Mohammed would be a British national hero?

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by RobRoyal » 20 Oct 2012 11:01

facaldaqui Interesting that several of those opposing Roberts on here seem to be saying that racism isn't that much of an issue, while making racist and other intolerant remarks themselves.


Indeed.

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by ankeny » 20 Oct 2012 11:02

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ankeny Not well put granted but there is a lot of truth in what Ideal says.


Is there bollocks!! What about when those arseholes were convicted of multiple rape in Rochdale? I don't recall anybody saying that it was down to 'cultural difference' except the defendants themselves.

My opinion is that the shallow gene pool in places like Norway are to blame for the ridiculous racist, right wing views held by people like Quisling, Breivik and Ideal. The whole world condemned Breivik for what he'd done, including all of Norway. I wonder what the Norwegians reaction would have been if the people he killed had been largely Islamic, rather than white!!

So what your saying ,perhaps Im wrong,the world would not have reacted the same way if the people he killed were Muslims?Thats interesting..didnt the police turn a blind eye in Rochdale to keep racial harmony,if they had been white working class the police would have been down on them like a ton of bricks.Rascism is not all one way you know,and Im talking as someone who had threats off the National Front in the seventies for protesting against the NF candidate outside the town hall I


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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by Jinx » 20 Oct 2012 11:51

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ankeny Not well put granted but there is a lot of truth in what Ideal says.


Is there bollocks!! What about when those arseholes were convicted of multiple rape in Rochdale? I don't recall anybody saying that it was down to 'cultural difference' except the defendants themselves.

My opinion is that the shallow gene pool in places like Norway are to blame for the ridiculous racist, right wing views held by people like Quisling, Breivik and Ideal. The whole world condemned Breivik for what he'd done, including all of Norway. I wonder what the Norwegians reaction would have been if the people he killed had been largely Islamic, rather than white!!

And of course your condemnation of an entire country based on the actions of 3 people is not in the slightest bigoted or racist is it?

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by Hampshire Royal » 20 Oct 2012 11:57

Ankeny, please don't wave your anti-racist credentials in front of me. First of all, I questioned whether the Norwegians themselves would have reacted differently, not the world as a whole. Secondly, I don't believe the police (those bastions against racism) in Rochdale turned a blind eye to the rapes. Thirdly, I live in Switzerland and am married to an African woman. I often do shopping in France. The racism I encounter directed at my wife is, to me, unacceptable. For example, if we're in a supermarket and my wife asks a staff member where we can find a particular item, she is dismissed with a general point. When I, a white man, asks for the same thing in my pigeon French, I am treated differently and with respect. If I try to point this out, my wife will tell me to shut up and just accept that that's the way things are.

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by Hampshire Royal » 20 Oct 2012 12:05

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ankeny Not well put granted but there is a lot of truth in what Ideal says.


Is there bollocks!! What about when those arseholes were convicted of multiple rape in Rochdale? I don't recall anybody saying that it was down to 'cultural difference' except the defendants themselves.

My opinion is that the shallow gene pool in places like Norway are to blame for the ridiculous racist, right wing views held by people like Quisling, Breivik and Ideal. The whole world condemned Breivik for what he'd done, including all of Norway. I wonder what the Norwegians reaction would have been if the people he killed had been largely Islamic, rather than white!!

And of course your condemnation of an entire country based on the actions of 3 people is not in the slightest bigoted or racist is it?


I don't deny it. I believe that bigotry is part of the human condition in that we all like to point to people we consider worse than us. I don't for one moment believe that the majority of Norwegians are like Ideal, but I do believe that I am better than Ideal and people like him. If someone ever convinces me that he is right and I am wrong my faith in mankind would crumble.

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by Royal Rother » 20 Oct 2012 12:09

So your anti-racist credentials are more valid than Ankeny's? Is there a Brendy-approved scale we can refer to in order to check this out?

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by Hampshire Royal » 20 Oct 2012 12:23

If there isn't, there should be! How many people, for example, believe that those who say we should not celebrate Christmas because it may insult Moslems, or those who insist on saying 'Chalk board' rather than 'Blackboard' are racist, but are hiding behind some sort of anti-racist smokescreen?

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by ZacNaloen » 20 Oct 2012 13:08

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facaldaqui Interesting that several of those opposing Roberts on here seem to be saying that racism isn't that much of an issue, while making racist and other intolerant remarks themselves.


Indeed.



In my case not at all.

I disagree with his premise.

His argument is because we've had two high profile incidents last year that Kick it out isn't doing it's job.

It's my opinion that the whole reason those events have been such big news is because kick it out has done it's job. White players have been racist to black players for years with nothing being said. Now when it happens, there are repercussions, because black players feel that it is now not something they have to put up with. This is of course a good thing. If Roberts doesn't think those repercussions are enough, then that is all he needs to say. Not drag the organisations name through the mud. Go ahead and campaign on that premise, but to boycott the organisation is frankly a step too far.

We are going to see a lot more incidents of racism in the media now, but this is a good thing because it continues to highlight the issue. It doesn't mean that the racism issue isn't improving though. We are talking about it and those responsible are getting punished, that's improvement in itself.

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Re: Jason Roberts...Do you sometimes find him annoying?!

by RoyalBlue » 20 Oct 2012 13:35

melonhead ginger people arnt opressed or enslaved because of their hair though
just gently mocked


"just gently mocked"?
:shock: :shock:


Many are very badly bullied at some point in the lives.

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