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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Royalclapper » 27 Dec 2015 08:57

Nowt much to get excited about there last night. Felt just like as it was i.e one of those Sky awkward kick-off time games where no one really wants to be arsed - no wonder everyone moans about them, takes the edge off the whole thing.

Should've been in front, didn't take our chances then conceded and they settled for what they had is pretty much the match summary.

A notable shout out to the Wolves fans giving their own keeper a load of abuse when he had soapy hands and spilled the ball out for a corner, just about sums you scruffy dingle k**nts up.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Jack Celliers » 27 Dec 2015 09:13

If we had had a bit more luck we might have won, but can't complain too much as we should have lost our best defender early on to a red card an penalty. No obvious motm, but HRK, Williams and Norwood looked good again. Vydra and Hector weren't up for it - if I was a new manager, I wouldn't want them in my squad. Are we stuck with these loan players for the whole season?

More importantly, I think it should be dived, in the UK when discussing what Gunter didn't really do yesterday. Dove sounds American, whimsical, or just wrong.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by WAZZOCK » 27 Dec 2015 09:29

I haven't got a solution myself, but I think the people suggesting we play wider are a bit misguided. There's no point launching balls into the box over and over to players that just simply aren't going to win headers. Unless we give Liburd a run in the team then (unlikely and probably way too soon for him), then this will be ineffective tactic.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Extended-Phenotype » 27 Dec 2015 09:56

Didn't seem to learn from the game before and line up as we did in the second half against blackburn. Baffled by that.

Piazon and John should have started.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by LWJ » 27 Dec 2015 10:18

Not sure why so negative. We played well but didn't score, you could tell confidence is down.

A lot of positives to take from the game and you just know if we start getting an early goal we will grow in confidence. Some of the football we played last night as back to the quick free flowing stuff we had at the beginning of the season


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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Extended-Phenotype » 27 Dec 2015 10:33

LWJ Not sure why so negative. We played well but didn't score, you could tell confidence is down.

A lot of positives to take from the game and you just know if we start getting an early goal we will grow in confidence. Some of the football we played last night as back to the quick free flowing stuff we had at the beginning of the season


This is true - we did look quite good. Just a shame that two players who made that extra difference last time out weren't part of plan A this time around.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Will95 » 27 Dec 2015 11:01

It was shit. We dominated, but had one chance with any actual threat to it, other than that we wasted what could have been an easy win. Here's an easy solution using the same players Mr McD - swap Kanu to the wing and Blackman (our top bloody scorer!) into the middle! Or, even better, do the same bur drop Kanu and put the ever impressive Ola John in! Fans were shit as well, but do we even need to mention that it's so standard?

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Sutekh » 27 Dec 2015 11:05

Will95 It was shit. We dominated, but had one chance with any actual threat to it, other than that we wasted what could have been an easy win. Here's an easy solution using the same players Mr McD - swap Kanu to the wing and Blackman (our top bloody scorer!) into the middle! Or, even better, do the same bur drop Kanu and put the ever impressive Ola John in! Fans were shit as well, but do we even need to mention that it's so standard?


Our best chances were all in the first 20 minutes. As soon as they scored they treated it like an away game and pulled everyone behind the ball and we had no clue how to threaten them as we couldn't get any space. All comes down to Clarke's influence in knocking width, pace and directness out of them.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by royalp-we » 27 Dec 2015 12:07

There is a stench in parts of this squad - those players that think they are bigger than this football club. I fcking hope Brian gets it sorted in January because I can't stand the sight of Hector swagging about, bloke can't even crack a smile at the start with his 'team mates' and he really did nearly drop us in it yesterday with a half arsed ball he tried to deal with in our own 6yd box.

Our strike force was sh!t but we need to build from the back - committed players like McShane, Quinn & Williams are fine - get Hector out of this team on Monday and drop Mcleary too. Give Gunter a rest and put in a youngster. Blackman is our only real threat so although his attitude sucks, I would stick Ola John on the left, Blackman on the right with Sa and Vydra up top. Get some fcking decent crosses in the box and some shots ON TARGET


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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Victor Meldrew » 27 Dec 2015 12:45

Pepe the Horseman Unless you think Chris Gunter is Leo Messi, how the fcuk did he have a chance of scoring?


By shooting as soon as he got in the box?
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you must have been at the game-on TV it was clear that he had a good chance to shoot but was more intent on planning his dive.
I wonder also how long he is going to wear the fashion accessory of the headband.
One of the softest players ever to play for our club and makes the likes of Meaker and HRK look like warriors.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by windermere_royal » 27 Dec 2015 12:52

Victor Meldrew
Pepe the Horseman Unless you think Chris Gunter is Leo Messi, how the fcuk did he have a chance of scoring?


By shooting as soon as he got in the box?
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you must have been at the game-on TV it was clear that he had a good chance to shoot but was more intent on planning his dive.
I wonder also how long he is going to wear the fashion accessory of the headband.
One of the softest players ever to play for our club and makes the likes of Meaker and HRK look like warriors.


A very apt user name you have sir.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by paultheroyal » 27 Dec 2015 13:23

Thought we were excellent and so unlucky not to come away with anything!

Keeper is a real issue for me. Would want us to go for a proven keeper with a future... Bentley from Southend for me all day long.

Vydra is a class act. It's the media and fans making out he is shot to bits. Just don't see that myself. Time and time again he is crying out for a pass through on goal... Once he gets one he will get 2.

Kanu as a striker is a poor management choice. Blackman should be up there, Kanu on the bench.

Like to see Quinn and Norwood in midfield, John and Mccleary out wide and vydra and Blackman up front. Keep it simple. Tons of options off the bench to change the game.

Approaching halfway stage and plenty to look forward to this season. Not written off by any way. Starting Monday.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by sandman » 27 Dec 2015 13:26

paultheroyal Thought we were excellent and so unlucky not to come away with anything!

Keeper is a real issue for me. Would want us to go for a proven keeper with a future... Bentley from Southend for me all day long.

Vydra is a class act. It's the media and fans making out he is shot to bits. Just don't see that myself. Time and time again he is crying out for a pass through on goal... Once he gets one he will get 2.

Kanu as a striker is a poor management choice. Blackman should be up there, Kanu on the bench.

Like to see Quinn and Norwood in midfield, John and Mccleary out wide and vydra and Blackman up front. Keep it simple. Tons of options off the bench to change the game.

Approaching halfway stage and plenty to look forward to this season. Not written off by any way. Starting Monday.


He had one last night and he messed it up.


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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Sutekh » 27 Dec 2015 13:30

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Pepe the Horseman Unless you think Chris Gunter is Leo Messi, how the fcuk did he have a chance of scoring?


By shooting as soon as he got in the box?
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you must have been at the game-on TV it was clear that he had a good chance to shoot but was more intent on planning his dive.
I wonder also how long he is going to wear the fashion accessory of the headband.
One of the softest players ever to play for our club and makes the likes of Meaker and HRK look like warriors.


Oh go away. Please.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by paultheroyal » 27 Dec 2015 13:41

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paultheroyal Thought we were excellent and so unlucky not to come away with anything!

Keeper is a real issue for me. Would want us to go for a proven keeper with a future... Bentley from Southend for me all day long.

Vydra is a class act. It's the media and fans making out he is shot to bits. Just don't see that myself. Time and time again he is crying out for a pass through on goal... Once he gets one he will get 2.

Kanu as a striker is a poor management choice. Blackman should be up there, Kanu on the bench.

Like to see Quinn and Norwood in midfield, John and Mccleary out wide and vydra and Blackman up front. Keep it simple. Tons of options off the bench to change the game.

Approaching halfway stage and plenty to look forward to this season. Not written off by any way. Starting Monday.


He had one last night and he messed it up.


Give him another one then.

Other choices in the team lack his movement and pace.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Royal Rother » 27 Dec 2015 13:52

paultheroyal Thought we were excellent and so unlucky not to come away with anything!

Keeper is a real issue for me. Would want us to go for a proven keeper with a future... Bentley from Southend for me all day long.

Vydra is a class act. It's the media and fans making out he is shot to bits. Just don't see that myself. Time and time again he is crying out for a pass through on goal... Once he gets one he will get 2.

Kanu as a striker is a poor management choice. Blackman should be up there, Kanu on the bench.

Like to see Quinn and Norwood in midfield, John and Mccleary out wide and vydra and Blackman up front. Keep it simple. Tons of options off the bench to change the game.

Approaching halfway stage and plenty to look forward to this season. Not written off by any way. Starting Monday.


I agree with everything you say pretty much.

Nothing is quite coming off for Vydra at the moment but once he scores a goal or 2 I think he will really come good. Although I do want to see Blackman central I suspect Vydra might be best paired with Sa as he can knock the ball down and has the strength to hold it up to lay off for him.

Goalkeeper is far and away the biggest problem. What kind of keeper squats when a corner is delivered? And then sits on his arse as the header comes in? If he'd stayed upright Henry's header would have hit him on the kisser.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Hendo » 27 Dec 2015 14:25

Will95 but had one chance with any actual threat to it,


Which one was that then? The one which was cleared off the line, McCleary's shot that went just wide, Blackman's effort which the keeper nearly chucked into his own net or the one which Norwood crashed into the post?

If the penalty gets given and is converted, its a totally different game and we probably go on to win with ease.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by CountryRoyal » 27 Dec 2015 15:06

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Will95 but had one chance with any actual threat to it,


Which one was that then? The one which was cleared off the line, McCleary's shot that went just wide, Blackman's effort which the keeper nearly chucked into his own net or the one which Norwood crashed into the post?

If the penalty gets given and is converted, its a totally different game and we probably go on to win with ease.


I think he's referring to McCleary's iirc. That was the only really good, clear cut chance we created imho. Norwood smashing the post with a first time shot from 30 yards can't be described as a good chance, regardless of the outcome of the shot.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by CountryRoyal » 27 Dec 2015 15:13

WAZZOCK I haven't got a solution myself, but I think the people suggesting we play wider are a bit misguided. There's no point launching balls into the box over and over to players that just simply aren't going to win headers. Unless we give Liburd a run in the team then (unlikely and probably way too soon for him), then this will be ineffective tactic.


Sa has scored a few headers and is technically our only available out and out striker.

I disagree though, no one says they have to be on someone's head, it could be a low cross or on the ground, or even hit the byline jink into the box and pass it to someone to shoot rather than just losing it.

Like I said, for the most part championship defences aren't great and will probably make a hash of a clearance or the keeper will fumble and flap, and if we're in and around the box we have a chance. Pressure builds = mistakes made.

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Re: BFTG: Wolves away

by Hendo » 27 Dec 2015 16:14

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Will95 but had one chance with any actual threat to it,


Which one was that then? The one which was cleared off the line, McCleary's shot that went just wide, Blackman's effort which the keeper nearly chucked into his own net or the one which Norwood crashed into the post?

If the penalty gets given and is converted, its a totally different game and we probably go on to win with ease.


I think he's referring to McCleary's iirc. That was the only really good, clear cut chance we created imho. Norwood smashing the post with a first time shot from 30 yards can't be described as a good chance, regardless of the outcome of the shot.


He didn't say clear cut chance though - a chance with any actual threat, I would say that a shot that hit the post has a good threat of going in the goal.

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