Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by loyalroyal4life » 10 Dec 2010 14:06

Snowball Can't agree. Sitting down is a passion killer



Just because they have seats, who said anything about sitting down?

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by Snowball » 10 Dec 2010 14:09

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Snowball Can't agree. Sitting down is a passion killer



Just because they have seats, who said anything about sitting down?


I don't mind standing or sitting-down but it's a total PIA to keep changing
from one to the other, and if you all stand up, all the time, what happens next?

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by Ian Royal » 10 Dec 2010 17:36

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Snowball Can't agree. Sitting down is a passion killer



Just because they have seats, who said anything about sitting down?


If there are seats, it is more dangerous to stand, because there isn't a lot of room and the seat in from makes a pretty good trip hazard if you move around much.

There is no way that standing in seating areas will ever be fully accepted, the only option is safe standing areas. And snowball is correct that it is easier to be louder and more passionate when standing. It's all about basic physiology and it's link to breathing and emotion.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by Svlad Cjelli » 10 Dec 2010 17:38

Can I suggest you take the safe-standing discussion to http://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102578, where it's covered fully.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by Snowball » 10 Dec 2010 18:08

I suspect most of us have been in some scary "crushes" while standing, packed in like sardines (excuse cliche)

I have Wales v Russia at Wrexham, Liverpool v Leeds at Anfield (0-0 when Leeds won the Championship)

We never NEVER want another Hillsboro, but something has been taken away from football by all-seaters

STANDING
The dangers are obvious, due to pressure of numbers, those at the back pushing forward etc (and too many
fans squeezed into too-small a space. But that is due to greed (packing them in) and poor crowd control systems

We should remember that many grounds were really antiquated and much "crowd-control" was crude.

If someone mentioned that a small amount of engineering would allow more fans, (more money for clubs!) and more "energy" at games, and IMO, SAFER conditions...

It's not rocket-science. You just divide the old-fashioned stands into "strips of say, no more than 10-20 people deep
with very solid barriers between.


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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by Svlad Cjelli » 10 Dec 2010 18:17

Can I suggest you take the safe-standing discussion to http://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102578, where it's covered fully.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long
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I suspect most of us have been in some scary "crushes" while standing, packed in like sardines (excuse cliche)

I have Wales v Russia at Wrexham, Liverpool v Leeds at Anfield (0-0 when Leeds won the Championship)

We never NEVER want another Hillsboro, but something has been taken away from football by all-seaters

STANDING
The dangers are obvious, due to pressure of numbers, those at the back pushing forward etc (and too many
fans squeezed into too-small a space. But that is due to greed (packing them in) and poor crowd control systems

We should remember that many grounds were really antiquated and much "crowd-control" was crude.

If someone mentioned that a small amount of engineering would allow more fans, (more money for clubs!) and more "energy" at games, and IMO, SAFER conditions...

It's not rocket-science. You just divide the old-fashioned stands into "strips of say, no more than 10-20 people deep
with very solid barriers between.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SLAMMED » 10 Dec 2010 19:55


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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by Gordons Cumming » 11 Dec 2010 10:29

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MmmMonsterMunch It's no coincidence that as the team gets worse year on year, the support gets worse year on year. Not saying its right but you can sense most Reading fans don't expect much on the pitch for the next few years.



Sorry, but that is nonsense. Th time that are being talked about above (when the noise was louder) were when we were in Divs 3 and 4 and playing some pretty rank football (at times). MOST Reading fans do expect a lot on the pitch and they should do. I can't explain why the chanting is less loud now that it was a short while ago but I'll give you one possibility;

follow the 'proposed new chant/ song / anything else' threads and witness the virulent attacks on anyone who tries to suggest an idea. The weight of opinion is always that it is naff and that 'we are proper football fans who sing/ chant proper football songs etc'. The truth is that the naff songs like Man City's, Stoke' s and yes, even Leeds's do get the crowd going. It doesn't happen overnight but it does happen. Witness how wound up the opposition get when a mass of Stokies sing Delilah - it is totally naff but it does the trick.

The club has tried to create that with Sweet Caroline (a great chorus that could ring around the stadium), Sing for the Royals etc but there is a mass objection to it from us the fans (well not me, obviously!). Might I suggest that all it takes is for the crew at the back of the East Stand to come up with a song, to sing it (even against the pressure of silence from other areas and it will, eventually be adopted en masse.

Anyway, back to the original point, to suggest that the quality of football is lower now than in the hey days of the South bank is just wrong, wrong and wrong.


Totally agree.

Words spoken from a man of experience.

BTW - Long isn't an embarrassment. He's a good hearted, hard working professional asked to do a very difficult job leading the line with some very dubious service.


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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SLAMMED » 11 Dec 2010 12:04

And feet that couldn't hit a barn door.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SpaceCruiser » 11 Dec 2010 12:36

SLAMMED And feet that couldn't hit a barn door.


Are you referring to yourself? If that's the case, then you're absolutely right.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by Kitson12 » 11 Dec 2010 17:44

Player 13 would have won us the game today.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SLAMMED » 11 Dec 2010 17:53

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SLAMMED And feet that couldn't hit a barn door.


Are you referring to yourself? If that's the case, then you're absolutely right.


No, Shane Long, and I was spot on as well.


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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SpaceCruiser » 11 Dec 2010 18:56

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SLAMMED And feet that couldn't hit a barn door.


Are you referring to yourself? If that's the case, then you're absolutely right.


No, Shane Long, and I was spot on as well.


How many goals has he scored this season? How about you? I think he's a lot better than you are.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SLAMMED » 11 Dec 2010 20:23

Oh without a doubt, but he isn't good enough to be playing in our team.

I restore hundreds of people's electricity every week, I bet Shane Long doesn't.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by royal-biscuit-man » 11 Dec 2010 21:20

Reading's support is shocking, today most notably. Get over it. :roll:

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SpaceCruiser » 12 Dec 2010 00:09

SLAMMED Oh without a doubt, but he isn't good enough to be playing in our team.

I restore hundreds of people's electricity every week, I bet Shane Long doesn't.

Really? You've never restored mine so you can take a hike

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by SLAMMED » 12 Dec 2010 00:28

You live in Exeter :|

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by FiNeRaIn » 12 Dec 2010 01:03

Ian Royal If there are seats, it is more dangerous to stand, because there isn't a lot of room and the seat in from makes a pretty good trip hazard if you move around much.


Take it you've never been to the madstad then? there is less room when you sit down as your knees poke forward closing the gap for people to walk past, thats why everyone stand up when someone wants to get past.

I'm just astonished at your comment here, truly baffled.

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Re: Player 13 - the only player more embarrassing than Long

by leon » 12 Dec 2010 01:41

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SLAMMED Oh without a doubt, but he isn't good enough to be playing in our team.

I restore hundreds of people's electricity every week, I bet Shane Long doesn't.

Really? You've never restored mine so you can take a hike


are you retarded?

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