Madejski being booed yesterday

[Dr Hfuhruhurr]

RFC fans aren't happy unless they are booing someone. FACT

Imagine how I feel - got there after Oster's name was read out and didn't see Madejski come on the pitch either.

Obviously I booed at 2-1 down but that only lasted a minute. Gutted.

Had to settle for booing Shane Long in the end. Boooooooo.

I didnt even go but even I booed when I read Shane Long's match rating in the News of The World yesterday.

I cant be arsed to boo Madejski. Yeah, he cant be arsed anymore, but he's hardly asset-stripping is he?, we still have 16 players, a stand, and a half decent season ticket price, and in my book, thats a football club, isnt it? He'll sell sooner or later - he's just enjoying the positive cash flow for a while. I would.

[readingbedding]

Didn't go up or down in 50 years, yeah that's 'managing well' alright!

You must be reading something into "managed well over 100 years" that simply isn't there.

Your comment is simply untrue.

[RoyalBlue]

Mr Madejski came on to rally some support and it was the same idiots that boo'd him that were also boo'ing John Oster.

John did not want to leave RFC, he was let go...
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I'm not sure it was the same 'idiots'. I didn't boo John Oster because he didn't state that he wanted to leave RFC and he was seen to give his all to the club until the day that he left.

On the other hand I did heckle Ego Madejski .......

As for the suggested silent, turning of backs on Madejski, it might be more effective but it takes orchestration. Saturday's reaction, a mixture of boos and heckling, was spontaneous and the message can't have fallen entirely on deaf ears!

As for those who refer to Thames Valley Royals - I give you Roger Smee, former player who did lose his money and b*gger up his own business in the process of ensuring that RFC continued as exactly that during the Maxwell era. Don't recall the tannoy at Elm Park calling upon us to pay homage to our saviour at that time!

And would RFC have ceased to exist if Madejski hadn't come along? Maybe in the form that it was, but it would have come back from the ashes just like Aldershot. The name Reading FC will always outlive that of any Chairman.

[Platypuss]

Didn't go up or down in 50 years, yeah that's 'managing well' alright!

You must be reading something into "managed well over 100 years" that simply isn't there.

Your comment is simply untrue.

Obviously listening to too much RTE online.

If you can manage to find some period between 1871 and 1990 when we ceased to exist then I'll be impressed.

[readingbedding]

So for you 'managing well' means existing as a Professional Football team?
For me 'managing well' is more ambitious and successful than that, but each to their own.

[Scarface]

Although I'd much rather the chairman stay in the stands and I cringe everytime he walks onto the pitch, I think the booing is a bit unfair.

From what we've heard, when Coppell has asked for money it's been there and it's he and Hammond that set the valuations for our want away players, and then have to accept when it's met, so I can't see why Madejski deserves any criticism at the moment. The reason we've not made any decent signings is because Coppell not being prepared to gamble until players are sold, leaving us no time.

Remember his quote after the Forest game - "No players will be sold after the season has started".

[Platypuss]

So for you 'managing well' means existing as a Professional Football team?
For me 'managing well' is more ambitious and successful than that, but each to their own.

I'd normally assume this was a whoosh, but for the benefit of the hard of thinking:

"managed" = "achieved"

"well over 100" = "comfortably more than 100".

[West Stand Man]

My recollection is that Roger Smee was witin 24 hoirs of winding the club up when he asked JM to take it off him for a nominal fee. If that is the case then it is quite realistic to say that no JM = no RFC.

True but does that give him the right to implicitly criticise our level of support when for the most part he sits completely still in the Directors box. At least Delia Smith sings and waves her scarf about and had some justification. If JM wants to imitate her he needs to be seen to get behind the team as well.

... and did I suggest that was the case?

[readingbedding]

So for you 'managing well' means existing as a Professional Football team?
For me 'managing well' is more ambitious and successful than that, but each to their own.

I'd normally assume this was a whoosh, but for the benefit of the hard of thinking:

"managed" = "achieved"

"well over 100" = "comfortably more than 100".

As I said, each to their own.

[Hoop Blah]

So for you 'managing well' means existing as a Professional Football team?
For me 'managing well' is more ambitious and successful than that, but each to their own.

That's quite an odd statement from someone that was, from my recollection and I stand to be corrected, fully behind the way the club gave up it's premiership status without showing any ambition to re-invest to address the serious issues our squad had during last season.

[readingbedding]

So for you 'managing well' means existing as a Professional Football team?
For me 'managing well' is more ambitious and successful than that, but each to their own.

That's quite an odd statement from someone that was, from my recollection and I stand to be corrected, fully behind the way the club gave up it's premiership status without showing any ambition to re-invest to address the serious issues our squad had during last season.

No, I don't think anyone was happy about going down, we deserved it.

Doesn't change my feeling for the Club, I like going to see Reading with my mates and yes, I do trust Coppell, and yes I believe him when he said that he should and could have done things differently.
He has the Club's best interest at heart, but he's human.

Comparing times and era's in RFC's history, we're lucky to be around while RFC are enjoying their most successful and ambitious period since 1871.
The history books regarding RFC will tell you that the people running the Club was happy plodding along, existing mainly in the third tier.
50 years with no Promotion and achieving relegation to Div 4 in their Centenary year for the first time must have been an unhappy time.
That's not managed well in my book, it's not even adequate, but of course people have different expectations and memories.

[Top Flight]

I don't want to compare John Madejski to Doug Ellis....

But David O'Leary was talking about how Doug Ellis was holding the Villa back during his final years owning the Villa Park outfit.

For a few years Ellis was trying to sell the club and Villa couldn't move seriously forward until Ellis was able to find another buyer. O'Leary had wanted to sign Milner for £3million and Ellis thought it was too much money and wouldn't sanction a transfer.

Now Martin O'Neill asks for £12 Million off the American bloke for Milner and the money is granted.

O'Leary said that its like when you are selling your house and you are about to buy a new house. You're not going to invest in new curtains and new furniture in your house if you may not be living there in the next few months.

Maybe the situation at Reading is like that at the moment. The Mad Man is being very tight with the clubs coffers and is not sanctioning any major transfers right now. Because whats the point in buying new curtains when you aint gonna be owning the joint any longer.

Having said all that. I would never accuse Madejski of holding Reading back in the way Ellis held back the Villa.

Madejski is a great man, he has done wonderful things at Reading FC and I will forever be proud of him and respect his achievements. He can have the hotseat for as long as he likes as far as I am concerned. He has run the club in such a beautiful manner. And with Coppells superb management and phenomenal ability to put together an outstanding team from such little investment the club will be alright.

We're at a good level right now. Coppell can get us back up. But longer-term if we want to live in the EPL, we would need someone who is prepared to invest a lot. But times change, Premier League will change and the rules will always change. But Madejski runs the club incredibly well.

[Baines]

Comparing Madejski to the only available benchmark - other football chairman - the advantages of his chairmanship of the club so far outweigh the disadvantages that anyone booing him lacks any sense of perspective.

[brendywendy]

id not even sure id want a chairman who wouldnt bat an eyelid at being asked for 12 million pound for james milner

[Dirk Gently]

Let me give you a number of facts that ought to help in this debate ....

1. John Madejski (and his companies) have taken absolutely no money out of Reading Football Club - including in the form of loan repayments.

2. John Madejski has never turned down a request for transfer funds that has been made to him.

3. In the 16 years since the PL was formed, well over 60% of Football League clubs have been forced to go into administration.

4. For a significant number of Football League clubs, "the Reading model" is now the acknowledged best model of financial management for FL clubs.

For the record - number 3 is well-documented in the Deloitte Annual Reviews Of Football Finance. Numbers 1,2 and 4 have been told to me first-hand by people who certainly know the truth - and who I have no reason to doubt from what they've previously told me.

[brendywendy]

Let me give you a number of facts that ought to help in this debate ....

1. John Madejski (and his companies) have taken absolutely no money out of Reading Football Club - including in the form of loan repayments.

2. John Madejski has never turned down a request for transfer funds that has been made to him.

3. In the 16 years since the PL was formed, well over 60% of Football League clubs have been forced to go into administration.

4. For a significant number of Football League clubs, "the Reading model" is now the acknowledged best model of financial management for FL clubs.

For the record - number 3 is well-documented in the Deloitte Annual Reviews Of Football Finance. Numbers 1,2 and 4 have been told to me first-hand by people who certainly know the truth - and who I have no reason to doubt from what they've previously told me.

make this post a sticky please

[BobKnows]

Let me give you a number of facts that ought to help in this debate ....

1. John Madejski (and his companies) have taken absolutely no money out of Reading Football Club - including in the form of loan repayments.

2. John Madejski has never turned down a request for transfer funds that has been made to him.

3. In the 16 years since the PL was formed, well over 60% of Football League clubs have been forced to go into administration.

4. For a significant number of Football League clubs, "the Reading model" is now the acknowledged best model of financial management for FL clubs.

For the record - number 3 is well-documented in the Deloitte Annual Reviews Of Football Finance. Numbers 1,2 and 4 have been told to me first-hand by people who certainly know the truth - and who I have no reason to doubt from what they've previously told me.

make this post a sticky please

Seconded

[readingbedding]

Let me give you a number of facts that ought to help in this debate ....

1. John Madejski (and his companies) have taken absolutely no money out of Reading Football Club - including in the form of loan repayments.

2. John Madejski has never turned down a request for transfer funds that has been made to him.

3. In the 16 years since the PL was formed, well over 60% of Football League clubs have been forced to go into administration.

4. For a significant number of Football League clubs, "the Reading model" is now the acknowledged best model of financial management for FL clubs.

For the record - number 3 is well-documented in the Deloitte Annual Reviews Of Football Finance. Numbers 1,2 and 4 have been told to me first-hand by people who certainly know the truth - and who I have no reason to doubt from what they've previously told me.

Blimey 60%?

Surprised about that.

Some fans don't acknowledge or seem to accept the bigger picture.
They'll carry on blaming, and finger-pointing.

[Uke]

I don't want to compare John Madejski to Doug Ellis....

But David O'Leary was talking about how Doug Ellis was holding the Villa back during his final years owning the Villa Park outfit.

For a few years Ellis was trying to sell the club and Villa couldn't move seriously forward until Ellis was able to find another buyer. O'Leary had wanted to sign Milner for £3million and Ellis thought it was too much money and wouldn't sanction a transfer.

Now Martin O'Neill asks for £12 Million off the American bloke for Milner and the money is granted.

O'Leary said that its like when you are selling your house and you are about to buy a new house. You're not going to invest in new curtains and new furniture in your house if you may not be living there in the next few months.

@ quoting O'Leary as a good example of managing a football club's budget!

[Thaumagurist*]

60%?

That's about 43 clubs. I didn't realise there were that many, I can think offhand of about 10.