The truth about Royston...

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by tee peg » 14 Aug 2014 14:12

Geekins Any proof to the Pearce decking him claim? Surely Pearce should be the one punished if that's the case? Not defending either just sounds logical without knowing the story.


I was told by a senior member of staff ,at the Swansea game, that he " got in a punch up with Pearcy"

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by PistolPete » 14 Aug 2014 14:42

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PistolPete I'm surprised a loan deal can't be done for him. We could even pay his wages. This way he gets fit, gets exposure and makes him more sellable...

Is there really NO-ONE who wants him on a free loan deal?!

Only one person wanted him last time. He doesn't own a football club anymore.


He needs to sack his agent...

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Brum Royal » 14 Aug 2014 14:50

Perhaps if anyone is going to the next Fan's Forum it could be a question raised there. Nigel is in the seat for that one.

(Please don't now turn this thread into a deb8 on the merits of STAR and Fan's Forums, it was just an idea)

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by fruits » 14 Aug 2014 14:55

How is it the fault of his agent. The man is TROUBLE
he conned several clubs into signing him,but enough
is enough. His days are over he is passed the sell by date,
he is bad news can't the idiots on this forum who support
him get that into their thick heads. It is the emperor and his
clothes, Drenthe has lost any skills he ever had, through his idiotic
escapades. George Best was washed up at 27-28 years of age
Drenthe is the same washed up.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Extended-Phenotype » 14 Aug 2014 14:58

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Extended-Phenotype How did he fuck it up exactly? Not here to defend him but wasn't it the contract that kept him out of the side rather than attitude or form?

Is there anything concrete to suggest it was otherwise?

Yeah, his inability to perform when he did get on the pitch. Also plenty of suggestions around about his disruptive influence. No matter how costly a player is, you don't freeze him out completely solely because of that. You do it if he's disruptive.

He's a player who had a lot of talent, got signed by a massive club and then blew up. He's had three chances to sort it out since, he's screwed them all up. Stories of his shenanigans at Everton are numerous and confirmed. Who else is to blame here?

He's had at least two chances here too.


Who Moved The Goalposts?
I'm happy to settle for the prima facie evidence that he has had a few clubs now and has never settled or been frozen out. Being made to train with the academy is usually a good indicator that the manager is not happy with a player's atttitude, influence or application.


So just conjecture then. Thanks. Phew, I thought I'd missed something real.


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by LoyalRoyal22 » 14 Aug 2014 15:00

Use some of the Morrison money to pay up his contract and let him go.

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by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 14 Aug 2014 15:05

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Extended-Phenotype How did he fuck it up exactly? Not here to defend him but wasn't it the contract that kept him out of the side rather than attitude or form?

Is there anything concrete to suggest it was otherwise?

Yeah, his inability to perform when he did get on the pitch. Also plenty of suggestions around about his disruptive influence. No matter how costly a player is, you don't freeze him out completely solely because of that. You do it if he's disruptive.

He's a player who had a lot of talent, got signed by a massive club and then blew up. He's had three chances to sort it out since, he's screwed them all up. Stories of his shenanigans at Everton are numerous and confirmed. Who else is to blame here?

He's had at least two chances here too.


Who Moved The Goalposts?
I'm happy to settle for the prima facie evidence that he has had a few clubs now and has never settled or been frozen out. Being made to train with the academy is usually a good indicator that the manager is not happy with a player's atttitude, influence or application.


So just conjecture then. Thanks. Phew, I thought I'd missed something real.


I think the only thing you're missing is a dose of reality.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royal Biscuitman » 14 Aug 2014 15:29

LoyalRoyal22 Use some of the Morrison money to pay up his contract and let him go.

He has a year left, why pay him that year up front? - why not pay him by instalments via his salary and not set a precedent for future want away players to stop them wanting out and wanting to have their contract paid up first..... He won't get any appearance money, not sure if he's entitled to any win bonus/other bonuses, I assume they're appearance based.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Extended-Phenotype » 14 Aug 2014 15:29

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So just conjecture then. Thanks. Phew, I thought I'd missed something real.


I think the only thing you're missing is a dose of reality.


No, I'm missing evidence against Drenthe as well. Thought that was kinda clear by my post in which I asked "is there any evidence?".

Maybe I need to be clearer: Is there... do you... is there...

No, I genuinely can't be any clearer, soz.


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by The Rouge » 14 Aug 2014 15:34

He was good at Brighton (A) and we may miss Roysters crisp passing

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by Extended-Phenotype » 14 Aug 2014 15:43

The Rouge He was good at Brighton (A) and we may miss Roysters crisp passing


Whooa-yeah. T-bone steak.

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by Ian Royal » 14 Aug 2014 17:00

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Extended-Phenotype How did he fuck it up exactly? Not here to defend him but wasn't it the contract that kept him out of the side rather than attitude or form?

Is there anything concrete to suggest it was otherwise?

Yeah, his inability to perform when he did get on the pitch. Also plenty of suggestions around about his disruptive influence. No matter how costly a player is, you don't freeze him out completely solely because of that. You do it if he's disruptive.

He's a player who had a lot of talent, got signed by a massive club and then blew up. He's had three chances to sort it out since, he's screwed them all up. Stories of his shenanigans at Everton are numerous and confirmed. Who else is to blame here?

He's had at least two chances here too.


Who Moved The Goalposts?
I'm happy to settle for the prima facie evidence that he has had a few clubs now and has never settled or been frozen out. Being made to train with the academy is usually a good indicator that the manager is not happy with a player's atttitude, influence or application.


So just conjecture then. Thanks. Phew, I thought I'd missed something real.

No. Not conjecture. More than that, but not hard documentary evidence, which fans are never ever going to have.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royal Lady » 14 Aug 2014 17:02

So, no hard evidence = conjecture shirley?


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Extended-Phenotype » 14 Aug 2014 17:04

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So just conjecture then. Thanks. Phew, I thought I'd missed something real.

No. Not conjecture. More than that, but not hard documentary evidence, which fans are never ever going to have.


Yes, but what is it?

Feel like Paxman trying to get an answer out of Michael Howard.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Ian Royal » 14 Aug 2014 17:04

Royal Lady So, no hard evidence = conjecture shirley?

well done on missing a fairly important word out of what I said to try to strawman me.

Not interested in getting drawn into a petty argument about what constitutes evidence. The evidence has already been laid out satisfactorily by myself and others.

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by Extended-Phenotype » 14 Aug 2014 17:07

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Royal Lady So, no hard evidence = conjecture shirley?

well done on missing a fairly important word out of what I said to try to strawman me.

Not interested in getting drawn into a petty argument about what constitutes evidence. The evidence has already been laid out satisfactorily by myself and others.


Seriously. No tricks. Just interested.

What. Is. The. E v i d e n c e ?

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by Pepe the Horseman » 14 Aug 2014 17:07

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by Royal Lady » 14 Aug 2014 17:08

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Royal Lady So, no hard evidence = conjecture shirley?

well done on missing a fairly important word out of what I said to try to strawman me.

Not interested in getting drawn into a petty argument about what constitutes evidence. The evidence has already been laid out satisfactorily by myself and others.

Hearsay you mean?

No wonder you don't want to get drawn into an argument you can't fight. :lol:

Edit: Sorry to spoil your game Peps.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Pepe the Horseman » 14 Aug 2014 17:08

It's not a game.

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