Kitson don't give a toss about FA Cup

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by Royal Lady » 03 Jan 2008 09:23

Plus the reserve and fringe players will have something to prove. I'm really really hoping this isn't going to be a 5-0 trouncing for us.

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by royal.badger » 03 Jan 2008 09:23

Kitson really is a tool at times.

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by Scarface » 03 Jan 2008 09:24

The club aren't interested in winning any cups which is why I don't bother spending money to watch the games.

Is it any surprise our best players want to leave when the club adopts this negative attitude to winning things ?

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by Gunny Fishcake » 03 Jan 2008 09:31

West Stand Flash FA Cup is shit - Lets move on. Well said Kits.


Well that's the most stupid thing said on here for a while , it's a magnificent competition and ask anybody who's ever even played park football what it's like to win a cup .

What's shit is playing in a competiton you've know chance of ever winning , being a whipping boy for the so called big teams , letting in six and seven goals and fighting week in week out for the scraps at the foot of the premiership , oh and 12.45 , 5.15 ko's .

However.....of course the Premiership is where we want to be , it's just so demorilising at times not having the chance or thought of winning anything , remember that day at Leicester two seasons ago and when we clinched the title ?

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by Gordons Cumming » 03 Jan 2008 09:32

Scarface The club aren't interested in winning any cups which is why I don't bother spending money to watch the games.

Is it any surprise our best players want to leave when the club adopts this negative attitude to winning things ?


Get real, mate.

Winning things?

Where have you been over the last 7 years?

We are trying to get established in the Premier League first before anything else. A very sensible strategy I think.

If the club was left to someone like you we'd be half way down the slippery slope by now.


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by Y25 » 03 Jan 2008 09:34

oxf*rd

I bought two tickets :shock:

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by Vision » 03 Jan 2008 09:45

Scarface The club aren't interested in winning any cups which is why I don't bother spending money to watch the games.

Is it any surprise our best players want to leave when the club adopts this negative attitude to winning things ?


To be fair though, how many other Premiership clubs will field their strongest side (or even close to it) this weekend?

Not too many i'd bet.

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by papereyes » 03 Jan 2008 10:00

The sad thing is that, say, Villa, Everton and Manchester City have little chance of winning the thing, let alone us.

They may get a bit of a run together but then lose the moment they play one of the big boys.

Its no surprise that Kitson is saying this. Welcome to modern football, people. We all bought the tickets.

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by Crowthorne Royal » 03 Jan 2008 10:34

Overall I like Kitson, his attitude is both remarkable and refreshing. However, he does have to engage his brain sometimes before speaking out. The FA Cup has a real place in every true fans heart. It is by a country mile the best cup competition in the World and the most famous. Fans of every country want to see FA Cup games. Disrespecting it therefore is to disrespect every Reading fan and indeed every other football fan. Could we win the FA Cup - of course we could. In 1 and a half seasons we have drawn with Man Utd twice, Chelsea once and beaten Liverpool, Tottenham and Everton. These teams are arguably the top 5 out of 6 in the country......so why not ?

I understand Kitson's sentiment about staying in The Premier League and of course I'm sure we'd all agree this is our No.1 priority by far. But Dave, don't be a muppet and give other clubs and fans the opportunity to bash us with inflamatory comments like these. Oh and by the way, does anyone seriously think we'll ever do anything other than survive as a Premiership club ? We are certainly never going to win it.......a bit like the FA Cup then according to DK ?? :shock: :shock: :? :?


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by papereyes » 03 Jan 2008 10:39

In a few seasons, we will have a cup run. Through avoiding bigger sides in the draw, mostly, but a cup run we will have.

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by Barry the bird boggler » 03 Jan 2008 11:43

Quite agree, the FA Cup is crap unless you're a little club on a bit of a run.

For the Premiership also rans its just a calendar filler with nothing to offer unless you can wangle a semi final but pretty much as usual 2 of the big 4 will make it to Wembley and the media will wet themselves over it as that's all everybody wants isn't it :roll:

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by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 03 Jan 2008 11:52

If you want a real sense of "pot" and "kettle", have a look at this -

http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s237/st124233.htm

Remind me, which team was it that really started the total devalution of the competition by not even taking part one year so they could take the money and run elsewhere?

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by Gordons Cumming » 03 Jan 2008 11:56

Who Moved The Goalposts? If you want a real sense of "pot" and "kettle", have a look at this -

http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s237/st124233.htm

Remind me, which team was it that really started the total devalution of the competition by not even taking part one year so they could take the money and run elsewhere?


........and tell me how 6-4 can be a mauling? :roll:


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by Nezhen » 03 Jan 2008 12:00

TBH, I've lost a lot of respect for Kitson over this incident. What with his statements about not liking training and his thoughts on the number of games played over Xmas, he is starting to sound like the ultimate whinging over-paid footballer.

The FA Cup is an historic world renowned cup competition. It is the finest of its kind and was the world's first round-by-round knockout competition devised in the world of football (pre-dating any international competitions such as the World Cup). So for someone like Kitson to come along and slate the whole competition in this way, is at the very least disrespectful, but in my mind a total disgrace.

Grow up Kitson and show some respect for those fans who have bought tickets for Saturday's game and more importantly something, which is part of the very fabric of our game.

I for one will look forward to seeing strikers such as Lita come in on Saturday who have a hunger and desire to do well for Reading on Saturday no matter what the stature of the game is !

Moron :twisted:

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by Forbury Lion » 03 Jan 2008 12:11

If Wimbledon had shared the beliefs of Dave Kitson and Steve Coppell then they would never have won it, same goes for Millwall reaching the final a couple of seasons ago.

To be fair, It's the beliefs of Steve Coppell that have rubbed off on Kitson..... these in turn are presumably backed up by the board expectations being solely based on league position and not a cup run. Perhaps when we play teams above us this belief that we're supposedly not good enough so lets not try will one day kick in there too which would be unfortunate as we would never have beaten Liverpool with that attitude.

The crux of Kitsons argument is that he's knackered and would rather have a rest than play in a competition Reading FC do not take seriously. You can't fault the logic in some ways, he needs a rest as does Doyle so play Lita and Long up front.

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by 79Royal » 03 Jan 2008 12:15

Nezhen TBH, I've lost a lot of respect for Kitson over this incident. What with his statements about not liking training and his thoughts on the number of games played over Xmas, he is starting to sound like the ultimate whinging over-paid footballer.

The FA Cup is an historic world renowned cup competition. It is the finest of its kind and was the world's first round-by-round knockout competition devised in the world of football (pre-dating any international competitions such as the World Cup). So for someone like Kitson to come along and slate the whole competition in this way, is at the very least disrespectful, but in my mind a total disgrace.

Grow up Kitson and show some respect for those fans who have bought tickets for Saturday's game and more importantly something, which is part of the very fabric of our game.

I for one will look forward to seeing strikers such as Lita come in on Saturday who have a hunger and desire to do well for Reading on Saturday no matter what the stature of the game is !

Moron :twisted:


Calm down mate. He's obviously responded to a question posed to him and he's answered honestly. I'm sure if Kitson plays on Saturday, he'll be trying his hardest to get on the score sheet and get a win. Not only that, there is every chance that we'll get beat again, so there is probably an element of deflection here.

I'd love it if we beat Spurs on Saturday, but if we don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. I'd much rather we were playing Premier League sides every week, than hoping we pull one out of the hat a few times each year.

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by Vision » 03 Jan 2008 12:20

Kitson is just saying publicly what the majority of Premiership ( and a lot of Championship) players and managers actually think. See the line ups of teams from the top 2 divisions this weekend and tell me he's wrong.

From his personal point of view the FA Cup was important last season as it gave him much needed games, this season its not and as he knows he's unlikely to play he's just answering a question with an honest and frank answer.

The FA devalued the FA Cup themselves when they encouraged the holders to miss it one year to take part in a ridiculous charade on the other side of the World in a vain attempt to win votes for a World Cup bid.

Its not as if The FA cup is even about the "glory" for the minnows any more either. You don't hear clubs awaiting the draw hoping for a "giant killing" these days its merely about a "money spinning" tie against a supposed big club. The FA have tried to counteract this by not allowing smaller clubs to swap home advantage but I'm afraid its all a bit too late.

Take it for what it is, nothing more than a mild (and cheaper priced) diversion from the week to week trudge of the League campaign.
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by Gordons Cumming » 03 Jan 2008 12:23

Forbury Lion If Wimbledon had shared the beliefs of Dave Kitson and Steve Coppell then they would never have won it, same goes for Millwall reaching the final a couple of seasons ago.

To be fair, It's the beliefs of Steve Coppell that have rubbed off on Kitson..... these in turn are presumably backed up by the board expectations being solely based on league position and not a cup run. Perhaps when we play teams above us this belief that we're supposedly not good enough so lets not try will one day kick in there too which would be unfortunate as we would never have beaten Liverpool with that attitude.

The crux of Kitsons argument is that he's knackered and would rather have a rest than play in a competition Reading FC do not take seriously. You can't fault the logic in some ways, he needs a rest as does Doyle so play Lita and Long up front.


Wimbledon was a one-off. Times have changed.
Move on.

There is so much money in the Premiership now that losing that status rises above the glory of FA Cup as much as us supporters would like it to be different.

I'd love a trip to Wembley but not at the expense of the Premiership (I think?)

Coppell is right but Dave should sometimes keep his mouth shut sometimes.
He's turning into a bit of a glory seeker. :wink:

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by Forbury Lion » 03 Jan 2008 12:25

Why don't they offer the cup winners a gauranteed place in the Premiership the following season.... that would get the bottom Prem teams and lower league teams fighting to win it and actually beating top Prem teams who believe they are above relegation . It's controversal, In many ways it's such a stupid idea it might work.

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by Wycombe Royal » 03 Jan 2008 12:30

Forbury Lion It's controversal, In many ways it's such a stupid idea it might work.

Stupid is the key word there.

Back to the accounting I think for you.

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