Time to drop Federici

Time to drop Federici?

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Man Friday » 24 Sep 2011 20:27

I assume you weren't there today. Feds saved us time after time. The goal was superb, it would have taken luck to have kept it out.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by postwhisperer » 24 Sep 2011 20:29

you would rather have hahnerman or federici this season?

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Rex » 24 Sep 2011 20:30

Something like 4 excellent saves today.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Compo's Hat » 24 Sep 2011 20:35

Far too many errors for as many good saves as he makes. McCarthy made one error where the goal wasn't given anyway and he must be wondering what Federici has to do to get a game. The manager is too loyal to certain players anyway!

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by grey_squirrel » 24 Sep 2011 20:47

Not Federici's biggest fan by a long chalk and never will be again after his shameful, non-disguised public 'come and get me' plea on SSN, but don't think we can pin most of our woes so far this year on him.

Although he is now guilty of an appaling regularity of being beaten at his near post, we have to build team continuity, which successfully starts from the back 5.

Doubt McD will chop him just yet.


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Re: Time to drop Federici

by robbieroyal » 24 Sep 2011 21:12

grey_squirrel Not Federici's biggest fan by a long chalk and never will be again after his shameful, non-disguised public 'come and get me' plea on SSN, but don't think we can pin most of our woes so far this year on him.

Although he is now guilty of an appaling regularity of being beaten at his near post, we have to build team continuity, which successfully starts from the back 5.

Doubt McD will chop him just yet.


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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Thou Voice » 24 Sep 2011 23:31

Yet again Thou Voice has been right about this for soooooooooooo long...

...pity the slower members of this board toook sooooooooooooo long to catch up...

Do You See? :shock:

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by andrew1957 » 28 Sep 2011 10:16

One positive from last night is that the ridiculous anti Federici crowd should be silenced once and for all.

He might not be perfect but whilst he is here he will always be number 1 and last night proved why. Definitely 3 points won by the keeper as he kept us in it.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by RobRoyal » 28 Sep 2011 10:17

Thou Voice Yet again Thou Voice has been right about this for soooooooooooo long...

...pity the slower members of this board toook sooooooooooooo long to catch up...

Do You See? :shock:


Back-to-back MOTM performances m8 :lol:


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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Simon's Church » 28 Sep 2011 10:19

Looks like this motivational thread has worked well then.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Svlad Cjelli » 28 Sep 2011 10:21

Simon's Church Looks like this motivational thread has worked well then.


Always assuming that you accept the premise that it suddenly makes people change their views completely.

It hasn't mine - I think McCarthy would have done equally as well yesterday, and I still think he will get far, far better than Federici has the potential to.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by roadrunner » 28 Sep 2011 10:21

andrew1957 One positive from last night is that the ridiculous anti Federici crowd should be silenced once and for all.

He might not be perfect but whilst he is here he will always be number 1 and last night proved why. Definitely 3 points won by the keeper as he kept us in it.


Because he made a couple of unnessasary fancy saves that were going wide anyway, and that mix up with Pearce was just beautiful.

MoM? No. Cummings, yes.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by sandman » 28 Sep 2011 10:23

It is one thing to prefer one keeper over the other but it goes a bit too far when you don't acknowledge the good things the other keeper does.


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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Svlad Cjelli » 28 Sep 2011 10:26

sandman It is one thing to prefer one keeper over the other but it goes a bit too far when you don't acknowledge the good things the other keeper does.


No-one's not acknowledging them - just saying that they believe that the other keeper has the ability to do the same and better.

You don't have to be useless to be dropped - you just have to be not as good as the other candidate. I believe the other candidate is a better long-term bet who should be playing now.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by sandman » 28 Sep 2011 10:48

Svlad Cjelli
sandman It is one thing to prefer one keeper over the other but it goes a bit too far when you don't acknowledge the good things the other keeper does.


No-one's not acknowledging them - just saying that they believe that the other keeper has the ability to do the same and better.

You don't have to be useless to be dropped - you just have to be not as good as the other candidate. I believe the other candidate is a better long-term bet who should be playing now.


But here's the thing, McCarthy is overrated, there we go I've said it and am awaiting the abuse. He did quite well last season but he conceded 3 goals against Sheffield United, Forest and Crystal Palace not forgetting 2 against a very poor Boro side and the team dug him out on several occasions. He always looks likely to concede to me, his kicking leaves a lot to be desired and if Feds struggles at the near post then McCarthy struggles with even the tamest shots going across him.

I like Alex and have no doubt he will have a good career but he isn't better than Feds currently imo and most importantly the opinion of the manager.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Svlad Cjelli » 28 Sep 2011 10:56

That's where we disagree. I think they're currently of virtually equal standard - so close in standard that it'd not make any significant difference to the team whichever one plays.

But the key point is that McCarthy is about as good as Federici is despite having played 100 or so games fewer. Just think how good he'll be when he's allowed to have that sort of experience.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Bandini » 28 Sep 2011 11:00

McCarthy is just a natural. Watching his games last season reminded me of watching Shorey's first games for us. It just seemed so obvious that he should play there.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by sandman » 28 Sep 2011 11:16

Svlad Cjelli That's where we disagree. I think they're currently of virtually equal standard - so close in standard that it'd not make any significant difference to the team whichever one plays.

But the key point is that McCarthy is about as good as Federici is despite having played 100 or so games fewer. Just think how good he'll be when he's allowed to have that sort of experience.


The thing is though it's easy to look good when you're playing in a team doing well and your mistakes are quickly forgotten as McCarthy's have been on here. I actually think they're quite equal myself but I feel safer when our backs are against the wall if Feds is in there.

Alex didn't particularly do himself any favours at Charlton either.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by Ian Royal » 28 Sep 2011 11:22

Thing is, for an inexperienced keeper, McCarthy does the basics well. Federici doesn't despite being experienced. Feds is a great one for big saves, but half the time I get the impression he's only making the saves look that good as his positioning is poor in the first place.

And I disagree on Charlton, McCarthy kept it from being a rout in the first half and only started flapping at crosses second half. But then he may as well not have had a defence by then.

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Re: Time to drop Federici

by sandman » 28 Sep 2011 11:28

It's all about opinions, I'm not going to try and change your mind but I think Feds deserves a bit more respect than he's been getting.

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