TSI - The Promises, Policies & Progress Thread

[Y21]

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/madejski-stay-reading-fc-chairman-6195560

Let's see how both warring factions on here spin this out. Either the end of the world or a clear statement that everything is cool.

[Pepe the Horseman]

I'm quite happy to be chairman going forward.

Alright John, don't get too excited.

[winchester_royal]

https://audioboo.fm/boos/1665355-sir-john-madejski-breaks-his-silence-over-anton-zingarevich-deal

[Uke]

Maybe that will shut up those who think the club is in dire straits.

But they have only exchanged contracts. May have paid a relatively small deposit but as the purchase is dependent on planning consent probably not.
Either way it proves nothing.

In order to exchange contracts you have to have proof of available funds.

On a contract to exchange contracts subject to planning permission being granted in a year or two's time?

It'll increase the sale value of the club to the Omani buyers

[Ian Royal]

There's a problem! There's a problem! Doom! Doom! Conspiracy!
What's that, there's not evidence of a problem and lots of reasonable evidence that everything's fine? LALALALALALALALALA I'm not listening! I'm not listening!

[Uke]

There's a problem! There's a problem! Doom! Doom! Conspiracy!
What's that, there's not evidence of a problem and lots of reasonable evidence that everything's fine? LALALALALALALALALA I'm not listening! I'm not listening!

It's good news that business is going ahead as planned

Relating it to other issues is wrong though

Regardless of what's happening with selling off any firm would continue business as usual

[floyd__streete]

Not quite the statement I wanted. I wanted something a little less 'piratey'.

Joke. Happy enough with John Madj as Chairman for another 2 years, better the wig-wearing Tory devil you know. I'd have preferred to hear that their relationship was more than "cordial" (you'd have thought multi-millionaires could afford to share something stronger than Robinson's squash ) but at least it is the usual honesty from good old John. Fair play to John for coming out and making some sort of comment in the media and its good to see that my moaning on the internet has focussed minds at the club

[Royal Rother]

:?:

Hardly. I just asked "and why haven't they told us why things are delayed?" Then resident clanger HRH runs into the room and starts screaming at me.

I appreciate you get a rape hard-on for anyone who even delicately questions RFC but while for spamming threads about drugs and flavours of crisps you are indeed vital, your endorsement in genuine conversations don't carry much value.

You genuinely don't realise how you come across do you?

[The Rouge]

Everyone is getting in a tiz about TSI but should you really bother?

- They are not asset stripping the club
- They have not been investing crazy amounts of cash that would threaten the club if they walked away - we'd have to sell a few players and cut our cloth a bit....

We don't really get to control how much money people put in... They have put more money in than they have taken out, TSI have spent more than Madejski would have done (we wouldn't have even kept Kebe or signed Roberts for example)....

The days have gone where people own clubs for 40 years... - its a merry go round. It doesn't make a profit so it will continue to be this way.

[Agent Balti]

Agree with all that, Rouge.

Whilst I've been a fan for many, many years, I don't particularly get all the foaming at the mouth at things which we can't influence one iota. Everyone will have their rightful opinions, but if we didn't have TSI, we'd have someone other equivalent. So why get so worked up about it? Take a look around, almost every other club of our standing or higher has had the same shenanigans. They still exist, even thrive now.

The worst thing is that the same protagonists here will perpetuate their own understandings based on next to zero information that is even close to accurate. We were all going to hell in a hand-cart, apparently...then the club announces it's intention to buy the land which flies in the face of any issues that have been touted (in my view.) I don't believe there are any tangible problems, never were. If there are, then fair enough, we'll be sold to someone else. We can't affect that.

We'll still exist, we'll still be viable, we'll still be Reading FC. That's all there is, otherwise, it's all board posturing and the 'look at me' types with their ever so insightful two cents worth of something that isn't worth two cents. The Team section has become a massive turn-off due to this, but that's not even worth discussing.

[floyd__streete]

How can you say with certainty that there isn't/won't be an intention to asset strip?

I understand all you say otherwise, but the 'obsession' with the ownership is fairly understandable given 20+ years of Madejski's fairly transparent running of the club. Personally, I cannot identify at all with the new regime, especially all the secrecy surrounding them. That is tough luck, sure, but I retain the right to be sceptical of shadowy foreign investment given the various hatchet jobs performed at a good many clubs over the last decade or so!

[Extended-Phenotype]

Is there going to be anything on saying inappropriate things about kids in your first lesson on 'How to Read Your Audience'?

[Arnie_Pie]

How can you say with certainty that there isn't/won't be an intention to asset strip?

Why don't you try and give ONE shred of evidence that there may be asset stripping?

[maffff]

How can you say with certainty that there isn't/won't be an intention to asset strip?

Why don't you try and give ONE shred of evidence that there may be asset stripping?

The training ground purchase..

[winchester_royal]

How can you say with certainty that there isn't/won't be an intention to asset strip?

I understand all you say otherwise, but the 'obsession' with the ownership is fairly understandable given 20+ years of Madejski's fairly transparent running of the club. Personally, I cannot identify at all with the new regime, especially all the secrecy surrounding them. That is tough luck, sure, but I retain the right to be sceptical of shadowy foreign investment given the various hatchet jobs performed at a good many clubs over the last decade or so!

Because spending lots of money on wages on the likes of Baird and Sharp (guys who won't be worth any money if it came to asset stripping in 3 months time) would be a very odd thing to do if this really was AZ's intention?

The Rouge is spot on. I made the point earlier that the club will continue running in a business-like manner regardless of how much is owned by AZ. The good news is that we are continuing in our growth plans while all this takeover nonsense is dragging on so there's absolutely no reason to rush into anything.

[melonhead]

How can you say with certainty that there isn't/won't be an intention to asset strip?

Why don't you try and give ONE shred of evidence that there may be asset stripping?

The training ground purchase..

thats not stripping, its.......coating?

asset coating?

is that a thing?

[melonhead]

:?:

Hardly. I just asked "and why haven't they told us why things are delayed?" Then resident clanger HRH runs into the room and starts screaming at me.

I appreciate you get a rape hard-on for anyone who even delicately questions RFC but while for spamming threads about drugs and flavours of crisps you are indeed vital, your endorsement in genuine conversations don't carry much value.

[melonhead]

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/madejski-stay-reading-fc-chairman-6195560

Let's see how both warring factions on here spin this out. Either the end of the world or a clear statement that everything is cool.

or that the world is ending, but we're cool with it

[SPARTA]

How can you say with certainty that there isn't/won't be an intention to asset strip?

Why don't you try and give ONE shred of evidence that there may be asset stripping?

The training ground purchase..

Purchase? Nothing has been purchased, only agreed, pending planning permission which there are still obstacles in the way of.

[floyd__streete]

You misunderstand, guys. My fault for not making myself clearer.

I am not necessarily accusing TSI of asset-stripping, but I don't understand where the absolute certainty of their having the most honest of intentions at all times comes from Football in this country has been littered over the last decade with shadowy conglomerates seizing control of clubs, promising non-specific things, perhaps even spending big money in the offset.....and then things unravelling dramatically when the financial costs don't add up

I realise that a 'trust no-one' attitude is akin to refusing to go outside in case it rains, but TSI have so many question marks hanging over them - where is the funding coming from and how are they structured? How much funding is there? What are their targets? Why hasn't the other 49% been purchased yet? - that it is too easy to be cynical I realise the complete impracticality and unlikelihood of hearing answers to those questions, but that doesn't necessarily mean that supporters shouldn't be concerned as to what those answers might be. I wonder whether Pompey fans regret not asking more questions when their club was spunking money around rather than waving their d*cks around celebrating an FA Cup win which was achieved in a way which was almost fraudulent

So they aren't asset-stripping.....yet. But if the targets aren't achieved and they don't make enough money out of their project - because they aint investing out of goodwill, folks - what might their exit strategy be Large facility next to the M4, nice several-acre site in Wokingham.....nice portfolio they are building up