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Re: 3 loan players

by Zammo » 05 Jan 2010 20:24

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Stranded No idea who but McD is looking at bringing 3 loan players in during the window.


Sauce?

I reckon it'll be a right back, striker and a winger.


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Re: 3 loan players

by Stranded » 06 Jan 2010 09:38

Ouch that hurts man :lol:

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Re: 3 loan players

by Ruud Van Kitson » 06 Jan 2010 20:00

wish it was Reuben Reid...

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Re: 3 loan players

by Royalwaster » 09 Jan 2010 09:15

As usual all the other clubs seem to be signing players while we're sitting around doing nothing - or so it seems.

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Re: 3 loan players

by howser » 09 Jan 2010 11:43

I am afraid if history over recent windows is anything to go by it will be

"we tried to do some buisiness but it wasnt possible to tie any of the deals up in time, but we are happy with our present position, and with the strong squad that we have, we will go with what we have"


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Re: 3 loan players

by Ian Royal » 09 Jan 2010 14:25

howser I am afraid if history over recent windows is anything to go by it will be

"we tried to do some buisiness but it wasnt possible to tie any of the deals up in time, but we are happy with our present position, and with the strong squad that we have, we will go with what we have"



Except for the tiny detail that we have signed at least one player in every window for the last god knows how long.

The magnificent seven
Tabb, Kitson & Little
Hunt & Mooney
Matejovsky & Kebe
Fae, Cisse & Rosenior
Duberry etc...
etc

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Re: 3 loan players

by Scarface » 10 Jan 2010 09:59

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Stranded No idea who but McD is looking at bringing 3 loan players in during the window.


Sauce?

I reckon it'll be a right back, striker and a winger.


When will people realise that it's the shocking defending that's costing us....we need a goal keeper, right back and center half (with pace) NOW!!

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Re: 3 loan players

by Ian Royal » 10 Jan 2010 16:24

but we aren't converting enough chances either. Stop playing two really slow centrebacks (we have the options there) and get a decent right back and we'll look a lot more solid at the back.

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Re: 3 loan players

by Sun Tzu » 10 Jan 2010 16:48

Ian Royal but we aren't converting enough chances either. Stop playing two really slow centrebacks (we have the options there) and get a decent right back and we'll look a lot more solid at the back.


We may have AN option at centre back, we don't have optionS though.


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Re: 3 loan players

by Ian Royal » 10 Jan 2010 16:56

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Ian Royal but we aren't converting enough chances either. Stop playing two really slow centrebacks (we have the options there) and get a decent right back and we'll look a lot more solid at the back.


We may have AN option at centre back, we don't have optionS though.


Depends on whether you consider Cisse an option at Centreback which I do. Some may consider Gunnarsson an option too. So yes, we do have optionS

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Re: 3 loan players

by Sun Tzu » 10 Jan 2010 17:12

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Ian Royal but we aren't converting enough chances either. Stop playing two really slow centrebacks (we have the options there) and get a decent right back and we'll look a lot more solid at the back.


We may have AN option at centre back, we don't have optionS though.


Depends on whether you consider Cisse an option at Centreback which I do. Some may consider Gunnarsson an option too. So yes, we do have optionS


We could play Tabb or Hamer at centre back and claim they were 'options'. I assumed you were referring to credible options though. Clearly if your aim is to inject pace into the back four that immediately rules out Gunnarsson and Cisse hardly fits the bill on the back of one good performance 2 years ago and the odd bit of emergency filling in.

You also need to factor in that selecting a centre back pairing is not just about picking two individuals. You need two who can play together, you need at least one who is an organiser, you need one who plays on the left and one who plays on the right etc etc.

If we think Cisse and Gunnarsson are really long term options at centre back then i think we have a bit of a problem....

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Re: 3 loan players

by gazzer, loyal royal » 10 Jan 2010 17:15

Cisse is an option at centre back. Before he signed for us he hadn't played in the middle of the park for 2 years. He was a centre back at Boavista

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Re: 3 loan players

by Ian Royal » 10 Jan 2010 18:06

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Sun Tzu We may have AN option at centre back, we don't have optionS though.


Depends on whether you consider Cisse an option at Centreback which I do. Some may consider Gunnarsson an option too. So yes, we do have optionS


We could play Tabb or Hamer at centre back and claim they were 'options'. I assumed you were referring to credible options though. Clearly if your aim is to inject pace into the back four that immediately rules out Gunnarsson and Cisse hardly fits the bill on the back of one good performance 2 years ago and the odd bit of emergency filling in.

You also need to factor in that selecting a centre back pairing is not just about picking two individuals. You need two who can play together, you need at least one who is an organiser, you need one who plays on the left and one who plays on the right etc etc.

If we think Cisse and Gunnarsson are really long term options at centre back then i think we have a bit of a problem....


Are you for real?

Both Gunnarsson & Cisse have played centreback this season. Many people, myself included, think Cisse's best position is centreback.

Who said anything about long term options? Because Loans don't really cover long term now do they?

I am well aware that Centrebacks need to be picked to complement each other which is exactly why I wouldn't play Ivar and Pearce together unless I absolutely had to. Personally I think that Mills should be capable enough of organisation to cope with playing with Cisse. Add in an experienced Griffin at right back and it could work fairly well.


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Re: 3 loan players

by brendywendy » 10 Jan 2010 18:13

Royalwaster As usual all the other clubs seem to be signing players while we're sitting around doing nothing - or so it seems.



signed players every window since i can remember
usually trowards the end- cant see why that would change

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Re: 3 loan players

by Sun Tzu » 10 Jan 2010 18:24

Ian Royal
Are you for real?


Sadly for you, yes. And quite happy to debate without meeting you in the playground.

Ian Royal Both Gunnarsson & Cisse have played centreback this season. Many people, myself included, think Cisse's best position is centreback.

Murty played centre back for us once....
You stated that you had options TO ADD PACE. That rules Gunnarsson out as an option. I know he's played there many times, including for Iceland but he does nothing for us if you are looking to add pace.
Cisse has had one good game for us at centre back 2 years ago. You really have no evidence to state that is his best position, although I respect your right to think it.


Ian Royal Who said anything about long term options? Because Loans don't really cover long term now do they?


Loans would cover the rest of the season. I would not see either Cisse or Gunnarsson as sensible options to play at centre back for half a season.
Ian Royal Personally I think that Mills should be capable enough of organisation to cope with playing with Cisse. Add in an experienced Griffin at right back and it could work fairly well.


Sorry, but that's frankly a unacceptable argument. You don't know Mills or Cisse. To hope that Mills might be able to form a partnership with Cisse is no way to run a team. I sometimes think fans assume they have a lot more knowledge than they really do. I'm happy to admit I have no idea whether Mills is a good organiser, or a talker . I don't know if he is the sort of player who needs to put all his efforts into his own game or whether he has enough left over to carry someone else. I don't know whether he could play alongside Cisse and I'm not going to base a selection on guessing about things I have no knowledge of. I'd rather let people who have spent 2 or 3 years training with players decide who are the right combination than go on uneducated guess work.

It's a very good job neither you or I have any say in selection !!

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Re: 3 loan players

by Sun Tzu » 10 Jan 2010 18:25

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Royalwaster As usual all the other clubs seem to be signing players while we're sitting around doing nothing - or so it seems.



signed players every window since i can remember
usually trowards the end- cant see why that would change


And I believe we were the first club to sign someone this window.

Not that that seems to have registered with some people....

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Re: 3 loan players

by Ian Royal » 10 Jan 2010 18:40

Sun Tzu
Ian Royal Both Gunnarsson & Cisse have played centreback this season. Many people, myself included, think Cisse's best position is centreback.

Murty played centre back for us once....
You stated that you had options TO ADD PACE. That rules Gunnarsson out as an option. I know he's played there many times, including for Iceland but he does nothing for us if you are looking to add pace.

Cisse has had one good game for us at centre back 2 years ago. You really have no evidence to state that is his best position, although I respect your right to think it.



Cisse has had a more than 1 good game for us at centreback two years ago and certainly adds pace at the back. He is very much an option, so you're clearly just arguing with me for the sake of it, so you can be your usual condescending self.

Sun Tzu Sorry, but that's frankly a unacceptable argument. You don't know Mills or Cisse. To hope that Mills might be able to form a partnership with Cisse is no way to run a team. I sometimes think fans assume they have a lot more knowledge than they really do. I'm happy to admit I have no idea whether Mills is a good organiser, or a talker . I don't know if he is the sort of player who needs to put all his efforts into his own game or whether he has enough left over to carry someone else. I don't know whether he could play alongside Cisse and I'm not going to base a selection on guessing about things I have no knowledge of. I'd rather let people who have spent 2 or 3 years training with players decide who are the right combination than go on uneducated guess work.


It's not an unnacceptable arguement at all, it's based on having watched both of them play and knowing that both of them are capable centrebacks.

You say I don't know them so can't comment, then poo poo the idea without knowing either of them either.

I'd also rather let the professionals pick the team. That's why I haven't applied for a manager's job in football. But this would be a pretty freaking pointless forum if no one discussed the merits of different selections and gave their opinion on what needs doing.



The fact remains, we have two players who are recognised as being able to play at centreback (note the plurals) who can add pace to the defence compared to Ingimarsson and Pearce. Both are perfectly viable options. We then have a further emergency option for centreback, and possibly another if Griffin is brought in.

You clearly have nothing to support your argument against that, other than "Cisse played well once two years ago", which is, to be perfectly honest, rubbish.

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Re: 3 loan players

by DOYLERSAROYALER » 10 Jan 2010 18:47

brendywendy
Royalwaster As usual all the other clubs seem to be signing players while we're sitting around doing nothing - or so it seems.



signed players every window since i can remember
usually trowards the end- cant see why that would change



Because times have changed...if you havent noticed in recent months!

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Re: 3 loan players

by Ian Royal » 10 Jan 2010 18:49

Not really. We've signed a player and in are in for some more. Same old same old.

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Re: 3 loan players

by brendywendy » 10 Jan 2010 18:59

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Royalwaster As usual all the other clubs seem to be signing players while we're sitting around doing nothing - or so it seems.



signed players every window since i can remember
usually trowards the end- cant see why that would change



Because times have changed...if you havent noticed in recent months!



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