Luis Suarez - scumbag

[Victor Meldrew]

Liverpool FC have just confirmed that players will be wearing t-shirts supporting Gary Dobson & David Norris ahead of this Friday's FA Cup game against Oldham Athletic

Aren't they London scum?
Much more likely that John Terry will be wearing a T-shirt supporting them.

[No Fixed Abode]

Liverpool FC have just confirmed that players will be wearing t-shirts supporting Gary Dobson & David Norris ahead of this Friday's FA Cup game against Oldham Athletic

Aren't they London scum?
Much more likely that John Terry will be wearing a T-shirt supporting them.

No - because Chelsea wouldn't allow them to wear any t-shirts.

[Victor Meldrew]

Liverpool FC have just confirmed that players will be wearing t-shirts supporting Gary Dobson & David Norris ahead of this Friday's FA Cup game against Oldham Athletic

Aren't they London scum?
Much more likely that John Terry will be wearing a T-shirt supporting them.

No - because Chelsea wouldn't allow them to wear any t-shirts.

Are you sure that Chelsea have ever stopped John Terry doing whatever he feels like doing?
The list is endless but let's start with shagging,drinking and smoking.

[No Fixed Abode]

Is it true that Liverpool decided to take the punishment for Suarez yesterday, so he didn't have to wear a black armband last night?

[sandman]

Is it true that Liverpool decided to take the punishment for Suarez yesterday, so he didn't have to wear a black armband last night?

[Victor Meldrew]

Is it true that Liverpool decided to take the punishment for Suarez yesterday, so he didn't have to wear a black armband last night?

You really are on dodgy ground oh occasional Chelsea watcher.
It could well turn out to be a case of calling the kettle .....

[No Fixed Abode]

Is it true that Liverpool decided to take the punishment for Suarez yesterday, so he didn't have to wear a black armband last night?

You really are on dodgy ground oh occasional Chelsea watcher.
It could well turn out to be a case of calling the kettle .....

Like I've said all along - if JT is found guilty, then so be it. You won't find me avoiding it or deflecting the attention away from it. Shame most Liverpool fans are like I described on the previous page. And you've just fallen str8 into that category.

[Victor Meldrew]

What is it that you keep on saying?
Rattled?

[No Fixed Abode]

What is it that you keep on saying?
Rattled?

no, I keep saying 'racist'.

[Victor Meldrew]

What is it that you keep on saying?
Rattled?

no, I keep saying 'racist'.

No wonder you are in Strangeways if you keep going round saying "racist".
You're worse than Terry and Suarez put together.
Now off to bed and play with your rattle

[cmonurz]

He can't, his Mum is changing his bed sheets.

[No Fixed Abode]

LOL @ mentioning Terry again.

[No Fixed Abode]

He can't, his Mum is changing his bed sheets.

DEffo. My kick racism out of football bed sheets have just gone on.

[Bandini]

He can't, his Mum is changing his bed sheets.

DEffo. My kick racism out of football bed sheets have just gone on.

That was actually pretty good.

[Extended-Phenotype]

I was being a dick.

Call it withdrawal from the invariable consumption of festive alcohol, the return of the concept of ‘morning’, ‘moving’ and ‘thinking’, or the possibility I’m just a massive turdsatchel – I do get furious about this debate which to me seems alarmingly like excusing casual racism with incognisant logic.

It’s rather boneheaded of me to think I can win round opposition with over elaborate, asterisk-punctuated spite, but this issue is not just important, but also close to me.

Racist dialogue, much like any bigoted language, stretches far from normal words, even other words which are caused to offend such as reference to a persons weight or general appearance. These characteristics, however hurtful to remark upon, rarely have blighted a person and their entire family history with such violence, inequality and oppression. These traits are universal to humankind, rarely have prevented people from acquiring work, a home, or a stable life. There are no alarmingly populated right-wing groups of angry males terrorising them, no history of enslaving them, no call to kick them out of the country, no campaign to harm or petrify them – these universal traits are rarely more than something people poke fun at, rather than use them as an excuse to obliterate them.

My Granddad is under the innocent but ignorant impression that the term ‘paki’ is just an abbreviation. If he knew the terror that word fills my friend with when she hears it, the memories of violent thugs yelling it at her in chase, screaming it through her letterbox, spitting it in her families face whenever they left the house, perhaps he would appreciate the weight of the word – intended as an abbreviation or not – and be thoughtful enough to stop using it.

Maybe those who are comfortable in referencing someone’s skin, especially in an act of aggression, should wonder why others aren’t, and perhaps consider that the lack of respect they are showing towards race, is in itself a level of racism, and that they are justifying the continued social acceptability of such terms.

The far right have been finding loopholes in equality for generations; I can see where the next ones are coming from and it makes me angry, even more so when level-headed and educated people seem happy to adopt their arguments and excuses.

I don’t believe it is possible to use racist language in aggression, without being a racist. I also think it’s possible to be a racist and have black friends. But I’ve banged on far to long as it is.

Not sure what I expect to get from this post; at best perhaps it will stir a bit of thoughtful debate or change someone’s opinion on the matter; at worst it might make me look less of a prick.

[No Fixed Abode]

Finally an apology from Suarez - but no mention of an apology to Evra...... his advisors are finally seeing some sense.

Although there are reports he wants to quit the English game after this.......

[Mr Angry]

Lord Ouseley, who was chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality from 1993 to 2000, wrote in the Guardian: "Liverpool need to take a hard look at themselves and how they have responded to the complaint and the investigations into the allegations of abuse in the Patrice Evra/Luis Suarez case.

"Throughout the entirety of the proceedings, over the past three months, all we have heard are denials and denigration of Evra.

"Since the publication of the 115-page report of the findings of the FA's independent commission, Liverpool's vitriol has increased.

"Suarez's attempt at a belated apology is nothing short of lamentable.

"I cannot believe that a club of Liverpool's stature, and with how it has previously led on matters of social injustice and inequality, can allow its integrity and credibility to be debased by such crass and ill-considered responses.

"Liverpool have been particularly hypocritical. You can't on the one hand wear a Kick It Out T-shirt in a week of campaigning against racism when this is also happening on the pitch: it's the height of hypocrisy.

"Liverpool players wore a T-shirt saying: 'We support Luis Suarez', seemingly whatever the outcome. This was a dreadful knee-jerk reaction because it stirs things up."

Piara Powar, executive director of Football Against Racism in Europe, believes the FA would be within its rights to charge Liverpool and its manager Kenny Dalglish over their handling of the situation.

"Liverpool have constantly undermined the investigation and its outcome," he told BBC Sport.

"They have been disrespectful to the FA and questioned its integrity and neutrality.

"If a manager had done that in a post-match interview the FA would have brought disrepute charges."

It is understood that the FA has no plans to charge either Liverpool or Dalglish.


No doubt Liverpool fans will claim that Lord Ouseley is simply another biased Man United supporter with an anti-Liverpool agenda......................

[who are ya?]

Even blokes on the telly are saying Liverpool are in the wrong and they ALL know what they're talking about

[TBM]

Its funny how Evra is being made to be the one in the wrong here by all the Liverpool fans..........how do they know that Suarez isn't the one lying?

Also, its only Liverpool fans on Suarez's side - i haven't seen one other person defend him

[who are ya?]

It's because Liverpool are not capable of doing wrong