Is Adkins another Brendan Rodgers?

[ZacNaloen]

If you are responding to Royalee your response doesnt make any sense

[RoyallyFcuked]

Good record. Good footballing philosophy. Can't make it work at Reading.

LOL @ you

[Royalee]

Both superb managers, I'm just glad neither are another Brian McDermott and drop players like Pearce and Guthrie because they can actually coach.

The Guthrie that refused to travel you mean?

I'dve refused to travel and probably told Brian where to go if it took him 9 games during which I was dropped when I was one of our better players at the start of the season to pick me. We picked up 6 points in those games, which is why McDermott should have gone earlier. I'm glad he didn't though as we wouldn't have had an opportunity to appoint Adkins.

[SCIAG]

Both superb managers, I'm just glad neither are another Brian McDermott and drop players like Pearce and Guthrie because they can actually coach.

We are talking about the same Brendan Rodgers, right?

[Royalee]

Both superb managers, I'm just glad neither are another Brian McDermott and drop players like Pearce and Guthrie because they can actually coach.

We are talking about the same Brendan Rodgers, right?

Yeah the one who beat us to promotion, established Swansea in the Premiership and is now doing a very good job at Liverpool - superb manager.

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Both superb managers, I'm just glad neither are another Brian McDermott and drop players like Pearce and Guthrie because they can actually coach.

We are talking about the same Brendan Rodgers, right?

Yeah the one who beat us to promotion, established Swansea in the Premiership and is now doing a very good job at Liverpool - superb manager.

.... but was taking Reading into League One.

[winchester_royal]

.... No he wasn't. He tried to do too much too soon and results in the short term paid the price for that, but there were plenty of signs of progression...not least in his last game where we gave Scunny a good spanking and would have won by 6 had Gylf brought his shooting boots to that one.

We can sit here and slag him off for a bad couple of months all we like, but that won't change the fact he's proven himself to be an excellent manager since he got fired.

He learnt a few lessons from the sacking which have no doubt helped him develop as a manager, but IMO there was no reason why he couldn't have learnt them on the job rather than the reactionary measure that the fans 'forced' (a little dramatic I'll accept) SJM into taking.

[sandman]

Yes he was.

And he hasn't proven anything yet. Set up was already there at Swansea and he's not done anything of real note at Liverpool yet.

[winchester_royal]

Yes he was.

And he hasn't proven anything yet. Set up was already there at Swansea and he's not done anything of real note at Liverpool yet.

No he wasn't.

And no it wasn't.

And he's done plenty to suggest he's not a useless manager.

[Hoop Blah]

He learnt a few lessons from the sacking which have no doubt helped him develop as a manager, but IMO there was no reason why he couldn't have learnt them on the job rather than the reactionary measure that the fans 'forced' (a little dramatic I'll accept) SJM into taking.

I don't think the fans played much part in his exit to be fair, it was more internal fallouts by most accounts.

Yes he was.

And he hasn't proven anything yet. Set up was already there at Swansea and he's not done anything of real note at Liverpool yet.

He did at Swansea what the previous two or three managers failed to do. The additions of Sinclair and Vorm plus getting much more from the like likes of Allen and Britton shows how effective a manager Rodgers can be.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Jury still out for me on Rodgers. I have no doubt he would have taken us down to League one had he stayed.

He might have learned lessons but he was utterly shite for us.

[floyd__streete]

Rodgers certainly talks a good game and has done well to land the Liverpool job, he might even get them into the top 5 this season. To suggest that the set-up at Swansea - one of the best footballing sides in the Championship before his arrival - wasn't there before he arrived is revisionist nonsense.

His career has peaked though I reckon. I'd wager in 5, 10 years time he'll be managing in the Championship. Or lower.

[winchester_royal]

Swansea were a good footballing side before he went in, for sure, but to suggest he got them promoted on Paulo Sousa's coat tails is even more revisionist nonsense.

He's a bright guy who put a lot of work into the growth of this club's academy structure. I honestly don't get why fans are so quick to belittle his obvious achievements.

[Hoop Blah]

Rodgers certainly talks a good game and has done well to land the Liverpool job, he might even get them into the top 5 this season. To suggest that the set-up at Swansea - one of the best footballing sides in the Championship before his arrival - wasn't there before he arrived is revisionist nonsense.

His career has peaked though I reckon. I'd wager in 5, 10 years time he'll be managing in the Championship. Or lower.

The setup was there yes, it wasn't a totally new club obviously! He almost doubled the goals they scored and took them up a level and league from the work of Martinez or Sousa. Martinez gets all the credit in some quarters for their style but arguably Kenny Jacket laid the foundations that he then built on.

Rodgers is on a roll and its churlish to suggest he didn't do an excellent job at Swansea or that he's doing we'll at Liverpool.

[floyd__streete]

Swansea were a good footballing side before he went in, for sure, but to suggest he got them promoted on Paulo Sousa's coat tails is even more revisionist nonsense.

Ever heard of Roberto Martinez?

Rodgers is on a roll and its churlish to suggest he didn't do an excellent job at Swansea or that he's doing we'll at Liverpool.

How well is he doing at Liverpool? Bright start to this season but he failed to even get them into the Europa League last season and their loss at mighty Oldham was mighty hilarious.

I would imagine those who don't realise that Rodgers walked into a great set up at Swansea will also want to congratulate him for how much they've improved since he went. You can't have it both ways.

All this thread has proved in recent days is that some people are blinded by hyperbole and psychobabble. Lets revisit this thread in 5,10 years shall we?

[winchester_royal]

Swansea were a good footballing side before he went in, for sure, but to suggest he got them promoted on Paulo Sousa's coat tails is even more revisionist nonsense.

Ever heard of Roberto Martinez?

Ahh yes, the guy who was in charge for 28 months, and who'd left 12 months before Rodgers took charge, was the main reason behind their promotion to the Prem and their subsequent establishment

Rodgers took Swansea to a different level. Do we belittle Coppell's achievements because they were built on the foundations that Pardew built?

[Royal Rother]

Kaboom!

It's going to be tough coming back from that one.

[Maguire]

Rodgers certainly talks a good game and has done well to land the Liverpool job, he might even get them into the top 5 this season. To suggest that the set-up at Swansea - one of the best footballing sides in the Championship before his arrival - wasn't there before he arrived is revisionist nonsense.

His career has peaked though I reckon. I'd wager in 5, 10 years time he'll be managing in the Championship. Or lower.

Yeah but most Prem managers won't be in the Pren in 10 years time.

[Green]

Who does stay in a job or even profession for 10 years these days

Architects I guess. And Lawyers. The sheer level of training and investment to get them there ensures it.

[Ian Royal]

Can we not just leave it as Rodgers is a good manager who screwedd the pooch whilst here and has learnt from his mistakes?