IS THIS SITE BEING RUN BY THE POLITBURO?

[SCIAG]

If the incident that OB is referring to happened in front of the North Stand then I also witnessed it. One of the kids (more like 10/11 than 7) dropped his phone in the process. The steward was just trying to keep them off the pitch. There was no wrestling to the ground rather both parties slipped over. The bottom line is the kids were in the wrong not the steward. It beggars belief that people can come on here and defend these kids. If it had been a copper who had told them to go back and tried to stop them getting on to the pitch, would they still be defended. Whether you like it or not, when you come to a football match at the MadStad, there will be stewards there and you have to respect them and their authority. If you can't, don't come. Regardless of whether anyone thinks a pitch invasion was justified, the club had clearly asked people to stay in their seats. It was announced on the tannoy and it was on the big screen. The vast majority of us respected that and stayed off the pitch. These kids did not. They were in the wrong - end of story.

Some folk clearly have a problem with authority.

I agree with you that respecting authority is important. They shouldn't have gone on.

However, there was no point in the steward trying to keep him off the pitch, because there were already several thousand people on there. He was being petty and trying to flex his power for the sake of it, rather than to achieve anything. The fact that the people getting beaten up were in the wrong doesn't change the fact that the stewards were also in the wrong.

I can't really remember how the second incident started, except that it was well into the invasion, so you might be right that the Tango just grabbed his collar and then they both slipped. That definitely wasn't the case with the first incident, where two stewards tackled a young man and continued to manhandle him until someone waded in from the stand and pulled them off him.

The stewards were in the wrong, and a police officer in the same situation would have been too. End of story.

(or mostly what OB said)

[ZacNaloen]

Plus, Hitler etc


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[East Grinstead Royal]

Assuming we are talking about the same incident which took place slightly to the right of the goal (as you look from the North Stand), I can categorically state that (i) the youth in question WAS wrestled to the ground by the steward, (ii) the (presumed) sibling looked a lot older than 7, (iii) the steward did not raise a hand or land any sort of blow on either of the youngsters and (iv) the steward was wearing orange and had a beard. My opinion at the time (which hasn't really changed) was that the steward made a right tit of himself but quickly realised that he was in the wrong and stepped back, letting both lads onto the pitch. There were a number of similar incidents taking place over several minutes, the common denominator being that the stewards' tactic seemed to be to grab hold of the invader, look around for support and then let go.

[SCIAG]

Let's be honest, the censorship is more akin to that of the Kim dynasty: iron-fisted, but hopelessly inadequate.

Can we mention AZ's brief interest in Legia Warsaw yet?