How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

[genome]

Except we got rid of manager when things were really bad - you got rid of one when you were 1 point outside the play-offs.

Reading's form before Clarke's sacking: DLDDLWLL
Chelsea's form before Mourinho's sacking: WLWWDLWL

[No Fixed Abode]

Except we got rid of manager when things were really bad - you got rid of one when you were 1 point outside the play-offs.

Reading's form before Clarke's sacking: DLDDLWLL
Chelsea's form before Mourinho's sacking: WLWWDLWL

Reading were 7th
We were 15th.
When the respective managers got the chop.

[genome]

Reading were 7th

No we weren't. Anyway, can't argue with form mate. Looks like Mourinho was turning the ship around.

What's that in PPG?

[stealthpapes]

Things HAVE gone tits-up! This whole summer is things going tits-up.

The issues we're faced with at the moment aren't down to lack of funding though, they're down to not getting the best out of the resources we've got and, probably, having far too many players in the squad who are here for the short term and don't really care about what happens here.

McDermott has built a reputation on building teams, spotting talent and supposedly getting the best from his players through exception man management. Next season, and the summer window, will give him a great chance to prove if that reputation is well founded or not.

After 74 pages, it seems somewhat silly to say "stop the thread here"

but I did,

[No Fixed Abode]

Reading were 7th

No we weren't. Anyway, can't argue with form mate. Looks like Mourinho was turning the ship around.

What's that in PPG?

[genome]

Can't refute any points, so posts that. Embarrassed for you.

[Longhorn1970]

Brian started off okay, some improvement on before, things looked to be - albeit slowly - heading in the right direction. It's kind of stalled a bit, some stuff performances, some unlucky ones, and a shame to see our own players rucking (a sign of problems? Or just heat of the moment idiocy?).

Had expected more by this point, but it's tricky to see if that expectation is unfair considering how the two managers before him also struggled for consistency. Not particularly sure Vydra deserved the time he has had and Kermorgant as a signing looks woeful to me but I'm still behind Brian and reckon he will sort things out next season, deserving as he does what Adkins and Clarke had: a summer window.

Didn't particulary agree with Adkins being sacked, nor Clarke - though I didn't warm to either and can see why they went - so not about to turn my back on Brian either. If we want to improve, we can't keep sacking managers half way into their project.

if it was your business you wouldn't stick with a manager who was tactically inept just because you warmed to him ? Or maybe you would ...

[Top Flight]

I think there are many that would disagree with you that McDermott is tactically inept.

Results are mainly driven by the quality of players that you possess out on the pitch. The players we have are fricking useless.

Coppell didn't win the league when Paul Brooker was on the wing and Lloyd Owusu was up front with Les Ferdinand. Was Coppell tactically inept? He needed time to get the players in who had the quality to get results consistently.

McDermott is not a bad manager because his players are useless.

[Longhorn1970]

I think there are many that would disagree with you that McDermott is tactically inept.

Results are mainly driven by the quality of players that you possess out on the pitch. The players we have are fricking useless.

Coppell didn't win the league when Paul Brooker was on the wing and Lloyd Owusu was up front with Les Ferdinand. Was Coppell tactically inept? He needed time to get the players in who had the quality to get results consistently.

McDermott is not a bad manager because his players are useless.

I'm afraid the buck stops with the manager regardless of what you think of the players ..

[Extended-Phenotype]

Except we got rid of manager when things were really bad - you got rid of one when you were 1 point outside the play-offs.

Reading's form before Clarke's sacking: DLDDLWLL
Chelsea's form before Mourinho's sacking: WLWWDLWL

Reading were 7th
We were 15th.
When the respective managers got the chop.

Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over like this point hasn't been discussed and addressed? Are you mentally ill?

[stealthpapes]

Coppell didn't win the league when Paul Brooker was on the wing and Lloyd Owusu was up front with Les Ferdinand. Was Coppell tactically inept?

I had rehab for that, m8

[Top Flight]

I think there are many that would disagree with you that McDermott is tactically inept.

Results are mainly driven by the quality of players that you possess out on the pitch. The players we have are fricking useless.

Coppell didn't win the league when Paul Brooker was on the wing and Lloyd Owusu was up front with Les Ferdinand. Was Coppell tactically inept? He needed time to get the players in who had the quality to get results consistently.

McDermott is not a bad manager because his players are useless.

I'm afraid the buck stops with the manager regardless of what you think of the players ..

It does when he has had 3 or 4 years to do things his way.

Not when he has a mess to clear up thanks to his predecessors and due to the previous mismanagement of team affairs. He hasn't had any time yet to sort things out.

If players don't want to perform then the answer is to get rid of them. That can only be done when a transfer window comes along.
This lack of patience is a real problem in football. Those that don't display patience go down the football league (villa, Derby). Those that have a long-term plan like Swansea or Bournemouth or Stoke or West Brom tend to find their level towards the top end of their club potential.

[No Fixed Abode]

Reading's form before Clarke's sacking: DLDDLWLL
Chelsea's form before Mourinho's sacking: WLWWDLWL

Reading were 7th
We were 15th.
When the respective managers got the chop.

Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over like this point hasn't been discussed and addressed? Are you mentally ill?

Says a druggie.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Still the thread ticks along.
Sadly the question should be are you happy with the current owners.
People talk about how they invested in the summer, but most of it was covered selling Hector, they brought in Clarke, then appear to have told him who he was getting in a few cases.
Why else would he talk to Fulham unless something above was wrong.

[genome]

Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over like this point hasn't been discussed and addressed? Are you mentally ill?

Says a druggie.

I was watching the Agenda the other night and a politician said "Once you try and get personal in a debate you've lost the argument"

[Extended-Phenotype]

I'd say once you resort to making things up you've lost the argument, tbf

[trueroyal1871]

I think there are many that would disagree with you that McDermott is tactically inept.

Results are mainly driven by the quality of players that you possess out on the pitch. The players we have are fricking useless.

Coppell didn't win the league when Paul Brooker was on the wing and Lloyd Owusu was up front with Les Ferdinand. Was Coppell tactically inept? He needed time to get the players in who had the quality to get results consistently.

McDermott is not a bad manager because his players are useless.

I'm afraid the buck stops with the manager regardless of what you think of the players ..

It does when he has had 3 or 4 years to do things his way.

Not when he has a mess to clear up thanks to his predecessors and due to the previous mismanagement of team affairs. He hasn't had any time yet to sort things out.

If players don't want to perform then the answer is to get rid of them. That can only be done when a transfer window comes along.
This lack of patience is a real problem in football. Those that don't display patience go down the football league (villa, Derby). Those that have a long-term plan like Swansea or Bournemouth or Stoke or West Brom tend to find their level towards the top end of their club potential.

[Hoop Blah]

This lack of patience is a real problem in football. Those that don't display patience go down the football league (villa, Derby). Those that have a long-term plan like Swansea or Bournemouth or Stoke or West Brom tend to find their level towards the top end of their club potential.

As much as I agree with the lack of patience being a real problem, I don't think you can hold up West Brom, Swansea, Stoke or Bournemouth as examples of clubs finding their level by sticking to a long term plan and giving a manager loads of time to build something.

West Brom sacked Di Matteo pretty quickly into their Premier League campaign after he got them promotion the previous season. Clarke then got 60 games and was sacked before Christmas in his second season. Pepe Mel lasted 17 games after Clarke and then Irvine was sacked after just 22 games. That's hardly patience!

Bournemouth have stuck with Howe after he's turned a massive injection of cash into a period of success. If he'd squandered that money he wouldn't still be there floating around the League One play off places.

How long did Swansea afford Monk or Laudrup, let alone Alan Curtis?

[No Fixed Abode]

Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over like this point hasn't been discussed and addressed? Are you mentally ill?

Says a druggie.

I was watching the Agenda the other night and a politician said "Once you try and get personal in a debate you've lost the argument"

Self confessed by EP on here though.

[genome]

Not saying it wasn't, you just tried to use it against him = getting personal