The squad in July

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Re: The squad in July

by Royal_jimmy » 01 Jul 2023 12:29

We should still in theory have a decent amount to build a squad. Even if we can't sign anyone for fees we should be allowed to spend 75% of turnover on wages

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Re: The squad in July

by Brogue » 01 Jul 2023 12:33

Craig looked the best player on the pitch when I saw him in the Watford cup game last season. I know it’s a bit of a cliche but he just seemed to have loads of time on the ball, seems to get home self into pockets of space around the pitch, a clever footballer.

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Re: The squad in July

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 01 Jul 2023 13:23

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YorkshireRoyal99 Yeah 26 players but most will be academy players from the U23's and possibly even U18's. We don't have that many first team players as it is. Bit of a pain for those who may end up joining as we are in Spain currently.

Depends how you define them.

Bouzanis, Andresson, Yiadom, Holmes, McIntyre, Guiness-Walker, Hutchinson, Ejaria, Azeez, Carroll are all undisputedly first team players. That's 10.

Abrefa, Jahmari, Ehibhatiomhan, Camara all have mutlipe first team appearances and plenty of squad involvement. They should be expected to be part of the first team squad. That's 14.

Abbey, Senga, Craig, Boyce-Clarke, John Clarke have all made their debut and mostly been part of multiple first team squads. And should be expecting to compete for they first team squad. That's 19.

Dorsett is just back from a loan he should be expected as first team. That's 20.

There's hardly many makeweights


So that's 10 first team players (I'm not counting Andresson yet, so I make it 9 but going off what you've said). Can't really account for the others just because we believe they could/should be part of the first team, no guarantee at this stage to say whether they will be.

The only one's I'd say with a degree of accuracy probably will be are Dorsett (assuming he signs) and Andresson. So at best we are saying 11, including both of those.

The rest are U23 players fighting to break into the first team still. Making your debut or having a few appearances doesn't make you a first team squad member for me personally, just because they could be. All will become clear over the next few weeks though I'm sure.

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Re: The squad in July

by Hound » 01 Jul 2023 13:39

We are not at best saying 11 - you are :)

The likes of Abrefa, Craig and Ehib will be regulars in the first team squad this year if they stay fit. So are first team players imo

Ehib was last year

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Re: The squad in July

by Sutekh » 01 Jul 2023 13:48

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YorkshireRoyal99 Yeah 26 players but most will be academy players from the U23's and possibly even U18's. We don't have that many first team players as it is. Bit of a pain for those who may end up joining as we are in Spain currently.

Depends how you define them.

Bouzanis, Andresson, Yiadom, Holmes, McIntyre, Guiness-Walker, Hutchinson, Ejaria, Azeez, Carroll are all undisputedly first team players. That's 10.

Abrefa, Jahmari, Ehibhatiomhan, Camara all have mutlipe first team appearances and plenty of squad involvement. They should be expected to be part of the first team squad. That's 14.

Abbey, Senga, Craig, Boyce-Clarke, John Clarke have all made their debut and mostly been part of multiple first team squads. And should be expecting to compete for they first team squad. That's 19.

Dorsett is just back from a loan he should be expected as first team. That's 20.

There's hardly many makeweights


So that's 10 first team players (I'm not counting Andresson yet, so I make it 9 but going off what you've said). Can't really account for the others just because we believe they could/should be part of the first team, no guarantee at this stage to say whether they will be.

The only one's I'd say with a degree of accuracy probably will be are Dorsett (assuming he signs) and Andresson. So at best we are saying 11, including both of those.

The rest are U23 players fighting to break into the first team still. Making your debut or having a few appearances doesn't make you a first team squad member for me personally, just because they could be. All will become clear over the next few weeks though I'm sure.


1st team (these are the more experienced pros you'd expect to be vying for the first team and not playing in academy teams unless on the way back from injury)

  1. Azeez
  2. Bouzanis
  3. Carroll
  4. Ejaria
  5. Holmes
  6. Hutchinson
  7. Mbengue (awaiting confirmation he has re-signed)
  8. McIntyre
  9. Guinness-Walker
  10. Yiadom

In addition to the above Theo Walcott is training amidst talk that he will sign for the club and there is a story that Harvey Knibbs will also be a Reading player which would make 12 competing for the starting XI, therefore Reading need to recruit further for experienced first team options.

Abrefa, Jahmari Clarke, Ehibhatiomhan, Camara, Andresson and Dorsett would be seen as the next most experienced players at the club and therefore the next players expected to be challenging for the first team. These players may still play a part in the U21s but would be expected to be getting more first team exposure in cup games and from the bench in the league.

Abbey, Senga, Craig, Boyce-Clarke, John Clarke, Tuma and Carson are the most promising leads from the remaining academy sides but would still expect them to be playing mainly in those Academy sides apart from cup games and helping fill haps in the league if the numbers are short.

I would hope that some of the youngsters mentioned (eg. Boyce-Clarke - presuming he re-signs) could get loans at a decent level next season.


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Re: The squad in July

by Elm Park Kid » 01 Jul 2023 14:14

Seems a little premature to do this kind of guesswork now when we will almost certainly bring in a bunch of players.

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Re: The squad in July

by Hound » 01 Jul 2023 20:38

Yiadom in the pics from Spain

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Re: The squad in July

by Crowbar6753 » 01 Jul 2023 21:06

I have a sneaky feeling everything behind the scenes isn't quite as bad as its all being portrayed! Announcing these 9 new youth signings, plus its very much looking like Knibbs and Walcott will be onboard very soon and the upcoming announcement of Selles as manager is all much more promising than the doom and gloom of a week ago.

It sounds like everyone has been paid on time which is a big bonus also!! A lot has happened this week and I'm sure that will have a lot to do with Bowen being back and slowly working his magic.

I wouldn't be surprised to to see a big announcement once Selles is confirmed plus the new players. Its also strange that Sir John has come out in support of Dai? maybe another tactic to try and calm everything down from the hierarchy?

Now we've entered July and the official end of one season and the start of a new one i would expect to here something soon from the club regarding any EFL issues moving forward.

Should be an interesting few weeks ahead. :D

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Re: The squad in July

by skipper » 01 Jul 2023 21:13

GK - Bouzanis
LB - Guinness-Walker
CD - McIntyre
CD - Holmes
RB - Yiadom
LM - Ejaria
DM - Hutchinson
M - Hoilett
M - Mbengue
F - Azeez
F - Carroll


Does that look about right? Doesn't look bad on paper. But that is the entire squad, not including youth team. And only Anderson as a substitute.

Evidently we will need to sign a few, but it would be great to promote some of these youth players properly. Clarke, CBC etc


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Re: The squad in July

by tidus_mi2 » 01 Jul 2023 23:28

skipper GK - Bouzanis
LB - Guinness-Walker
CD - McIntyre
CD - Holmes
RB - Yiadom
LM - Ejaria
DM - Hutchinson
M - Hoilett
M - Mbengue
F - Azeez
F - Carroll


Does that look about right? Doesn't look bad on paper. But that is the entire squad, not including youth team. And only Anderson as a substitute.

Evidently we will need to sign a few, but it would be great to promote some of these youth players properly. Clarke, CBC etc

Yeah, looks like a decent enough 1st 11, hopefully some of the youngsters can step up, especially with the drop in League.

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Re: The squad in July

by Snowflake Royal » 02 Jul 2023 01:18

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YorkshireRoyal99 Yeah 26 players but most will be academy players from the U23's and possibly even U18's. We don't have that many first team players as it is. Bit of a pain for those who may end up joining as we are in Spain currently.

Depends how you define them.

Bouzanis, Andresson, Yiadom, Holmes, McIntyre, Guiness-Walker, Hutchinson, Ejaria, Azeez, Carroll are all undisputedly first team players. That's 10.

Abrefa, Jahmari, Ehibhatiomhan, Camara all have mutlipe first team appearances and plenty of squad involvement. They should be expected to be part of the first team squad. That's 14.

Abbey, Senga, Craig, Boyce-Clarke, John Clarke have all made their debut and mostly been part of multiple first team squads. And should be expecting to compete for they first team squad. That's 19.

Dorsett is just back from a loan he should be expected as first team. That's 20.

There's hardly many makeweights


So that's 10 first team players (I'm not counting Andresson yet, so I make it 9 but going off what you've said). Can't really account for the others just because we believe they could/should be part of the first team, no guarantee at this stage to say whether they will be.

The only one's I'd say with a degree of accuracy probably will be are Dorsett (assuming he signs) and Andresson. So at best we are saying 11, including both of those.

The rest are U23 players fighting to break into the first team still. Making your debut or having a few appearances doesn't make you a first team squad member for me personally, just because they could be. All will become clear over the next few weeks though I'm sure.

Ok, so you're arbitrarily choosing to ignore multiple players who have been regulars in first team.squads and made multiple appearances.

Cool.

Happy to ignore you.

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Re: The squad in July

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 02 Jul 2023 19:17

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Bouzanis, Andresson, Yiadom, Holmes, McIntyre, Guiness-Walker, Hutchinson, Ejaria, Azeez, Carroll are all undisputedly first team players. That's 10.

Abrefa, Jahmari, Ehibhatiomhan, Camara all have mutlipe first team appearances and plenty of squad involvement. They should be expected to be part of the first team squad. That's 14.

Abbey, Senga, Craig, Boyce-Clarke, John Clarke have all made their debut and mostly been part of multiple first team squads. And should be expecting to compete for they first team squad. That's 19.

Dorsett is just back from a loan he should be expected as first team. That's 20.

There's hardly many makeweights


So that's 10 first team players (I'm not counting Andresson yet, so I make it 9 but going off what you've said). Can't really account for the others just because we believe they could/should be part of the first team, no guarantee at this stage to say whether they will be.

The only one's I'd say with a degree of accuracy probably will be are Dorsett (assuming he signs) and Andresson. So at best we are saying 11, including both of those.

The rest are U23 players fighting to break into the first team still. Making your debut or having a few appearances doesn't make you a first team squad member for me personally, just because they could be. All will become clear over the next few weeks though I'm sure.

Ok, so you're arbitrarily choosing to ignore multiple players who have been regulars in first team.squads and made multiple appearances.

Cool.

Happy to ignore you.


Haha.

No you just listed a load of players with minimal first team experience, as first team players, when it's likely that 90% of the not-first team players you listed will be in the U23's or out on loan next season.

Being involved in squads/games due to an injury crisis or the last game of the season (like against Huddersfield) doesn't suddenly mean you are in the frame for a first team position, starting or not.

I suspect we will end up with 10+ signings, pushing the vast majority of those you listed down the pecking order. I'd be more than happy if half a dozen were to be useful players for us next season, but I doubt it.

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Re: The squad in July

by Hound » 02 Jul 2023 19:52

You think just one of Ehib, Dorsett, Clarke, Camara, Craig, Abrefa, Senga, Jahmari, Carson will be involved in the first team next year? I hope not


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Re: The squad in July

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 02 Jul 2023 20:22

Hound You think just one of Ehib, Dorsett, Clarke, Camara, Craig, Abrefa, Senga, Jahmari, Carson will be involved in the first team next year? I hope not


I included Dorsett and Andresson as the one's who are probably already in the first team. Outside of that, (at best) at the moment the only ones that might be involved are Senga and Abrefa, the rest I think will be U23 or out on loan.

All depends how close some of these players are deemed to be to the first team and what our situation looks like come the start of the season. I'll be happy if we do use more than this, although I suspect we will bring in 10+ players this summer, situation depending.

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Re: The squad in July

by Snowflake Royal » 02 Jul 2023 21:06

Apparently YR has branched out into fortune telling now.

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Re: The squad in July

by Hound » 02 Jul 2023 21:26

Fwiw I think Ehib, Abrefa and Craig will be bench regulars coming on more often than not. Can see Abbey; Senga and Camara being semi regular in the squad and playing maybe 10-15 games all in. Carson and Clarke I don’t think have re-signed but to be sent out on loan or play u23 football tbh but will be involved a bit less than the others. Jahmari, Holzman and Jokull will look to be loaned out

CBC if he signs will be third choice or loaned out

That’s my own bit of guess work

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Re: The squad in July

by Royal_jimmy » 02 Jul 2023 22:12

Need to start making some signings quickly. At this rate the team won't even have began gelling by the time the season starts.

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Re: The squad in July

by morganb » 02 Jul 2023 22:25

Hound ...Jokull will look to be loaned out

CBC if he signs will be third choice or loaned out

That’s my own bit of guess work


If our youth keepers are both to be loaned -

Just wondering what we'll do for a first choice/bench keeper?

Are we going a new signing (or loan) plus Bouzanis (or vice versa)?

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Re: The squad in July

by Hound » 03 Jul 2023 07:46

Royal_jimmy Need to start making some signings quickly. At this rate the team won't even have began gelling by the time the season starts.


Sounds like Knibbs and Walcott are in Spain. That’s two. And reckon the lot out there will be a bit percentage of the side

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Re: The squad in July

by WestYorksRoyal » 03 Jul 2023 07:55

We seem to be without a central midfield again. Knibbs and Walcott are useful signings, but are we once again going to patch together a CM from loanees in August?

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