Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 30 Jul 2023 19:20

CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by CountryRoyal » 30 Jul 2023 19:37

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CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play


Wouldn’t pertain to be remotely ITK but just read it off a league one page on Twatter so make of it what you will.

Does the debt need to be paid for it to happen? Thought we could sign frees and players on (f all) x a week?

Don’t know, genuinely asking.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 30 Jul 2023 19:55

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CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play


Wouldn’t pertain to be remotely ITK but just read it off a league one page on Twatter so make of it what you will.

Does the debt need to be paid for it to happen? Thought we could sign frees and players on (f all) x a week?

Don’t know, genuinely asking.


Oh that poster thing whatever it is is rubbish. Wouldn’t take much notice of it

My understanding is that we can’t sign anyone else til the debt is cleared. But that may well be incorrect. Did see something about 1.5k p/w which Rushesha might come in under though

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Jul 2023 19:58

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CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play

Oh god no!

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 30 Jul 2023 20:33

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CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play

Oh god no!


I knew you’d like it


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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Jul 2023 20:41

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Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play

Oh god no!


I knew you’d like it

Oh I love playing the game in our penalty area with the three least capable members of the team acting as playmakers.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by URZZZZ » 30 Jul 2023 20:50

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CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play


Need to be looking at a CB if/when this debt is paid. Holmes and McIntyre, collectively are too easy to play against. Not dominating or physically imposing enough. How many times do we concede from crosses (a problem dating back for a while now). Simply put, they don't keep clean sheets. You can't keep relying on scoring 2/3 a game to win. Will Dorsett/Abbey/Mbengue (who I do like) solve the issue? Not likely unfortunately

Game has somewhat evolved in recent years but two of our better defenders post Prem have been M.Morrison and McShane. Old school defenders. Sure, not great on the ball (visions of McShane in particular panicking each time he was under pressure under Stam) but they knew how to win games 1-0 - something that's been really lacking these last few seasons. Sarr should have helped somewhat but even amongst our shambles at the back last season - he was one of the worst performers.

It's not just the CB's - lack of pressing intensity high up the pitch, lack of closing down all over the pitch, fullbacks allowing the crosses in, non-existent midfield etc etc. It's a collective issue but at the same time - the defence has to apportion a large amount of the blame for having one of the worst defensive records of the 92 in successive seasons.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Jul 2023 23:23

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CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play


Need to be looking at a CB if/when this debt is paid. Holmes and McIntyre, collectively are too easy to play against. Not dominating or physically imposing enough. How many times do we concede from crosses (a problem dating back for a while now). Simply put, they don't keep clean sheets. You can't keep relying on scoring 2/3 a game to win. Will Dorsett/Abbey/Mbengue (who I do like) solve the issue? Not likely unfortunately

Game has somewhat evolved in recent years but two of our better defenders post Prem have been M.Morrison and McShane. Old school defenders. Sure, not great on the ball (visions of McShane in particular panicking each time he was under pressure under Stam) but they knew how to win games 1-0 - something that's been really lacking these last few seasons. Sarr should have helped somewhat but even amongst our shambles at the back last season - he was one of the worst performers.

It's not just the CB's - lack of pressing intensity high up the pitch, lack of closing down all over the pitch, fullbacks allowing the crosses in, non-existent midfield etc etc. It's a collective issue but at the same time - the defence has to apportion a large amount of the blame for having one of the worst defensive records of the 92 in successive seasons.

Clearly they do, but so does the midfield that fails to screen them or control games. And the managers like Gomes who pushed his fullbacks so high he played 2 at the back. Or Paunovic who made every corner look like a near certain goal for the opposition with his set up.

It's years since we've had a squad built to a plan. Or just a plan to be honest.

Early days under Selles, but I've not seen any different.

We know some of these players can do it. We've had good patches. And L1 is obviously weaker than the Championship.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by CountryRoyal » 31 Jul 2023 01:23

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CountryRoyal Button and Rushesha close appaz.


Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play


Need to be looking at a CB if/when this debt is paid. Holmes and McIntyre, collectively are too easy to play against. Not dominating or physically imposing enough. How many times do we concede from crosses (a problem dating back for a while now). Simply put, they don't keep clean sheets. You can't keep relying on scoring 2/3 a game to win. Will Dorsett/Abbey/Mbengue (who I do like) solve the issue? Not likely unfortunately

Game has somewhat evolved in recent years but two of our better defenders post Prem have been M.Morrison and McShane. Old school defenders. Sure, not great on the ball (visions of McShane in particular panicking each time he was under pressure under Stam) but they knew how to win games 1-0 - something that's been really lacking these last few seasons. Sarr should have helped somewhat but even amongst our shambles at the back last season - he was one of the worst performers.

It's not just the CB's - lack of pressing intensity high up the pitch, lack of closing down all over the pitch, fullbacks allowing the crosses in, non-existent midfield etc etc. It's a collective issue but at the same time - the defence has to apportion a large amount of the blame for having one of the worst defensive records of the 92 in successive seasons.


I think we’ve also lacked an out and out holding midfielder and never really replaced Leigertwood.

Closest we got imho to a combative midfield was Rino & Laurent (with the added bonus of getting forward more) but Pauno oxf*rd that when he inexplicably disrupted the partnership by moving Rino more further forward.


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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 31 Jul 2023 06:50

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Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play


Need to be looking at a CB if/when this debt is paid. Holmes and McIntyre, collectively are too easy to play against. Not dominating or physically imposing enough. How many times do we concede from crosses (a problem dating back for a while now). Simply put, they don't keep clean sheets. You can't keep relying on scoring 2/3 a game to win. Will Dorsett/Abbey/Mbengue (who I do like) solve the issue? Not likely unfortunately

Game has somewhat evolved in recent years but two of our better defenders post Prem have been M.Morrison and McShane. Old school defenders. Sure, not great on the ball (visions of McShane in particular panicking each time he was under pressure under Stam) but they knew how to win games 1-0 - something that's been really lacking these last few seasons. Sarr should have helped somewhat but even amongst our shambles at the back last season - he was one of the worst performers.

It's not just the CB's - lack of pressing intensity high up the pitch, lack of closing down all over the pitch, fullbacks allowing the crosses in, non-existent midfield etc etc. It's a collective issue but at the same time - the defence has to apportion a large amount of the blame for having one of the worst defensive records of the 92 in successive seasons.


I think we’ve also lacked an out and out holding midfielder and never really replaced Leigertwood.

Closest we got imho to a combative midfield was Rino & Laurent (with the added bonus of getting forward more) but Pauno oxf*rd that when he inexplicably disrupted the partnership by moving Rino more further forward.


Barely conceded a goal when rino/Laurent had that double pivot thing going on.

Got the impression the change was driven by Laurent who wanted to be further forward and Pauno gave in.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Jul 2023 08:31

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Need to be looking at a CB if/when this debt is paid. Holmes and McIntyre, collectively are too easy to play against. Not dominating or physically imposing enough. How many times do we concede from crosses (a problem dating back for a while now). Simply put, they don't keep clean sheets. You can't keep relying on scoring 2/3 a game to win. Will Dorsett/Abbey/Mbengue (who I do like) solve the issue? Not likely unfortunately

Game has somewhat evolved in recent years but two of our better defenders post Prem have been M.Morrison and McShane. Old school defenders. Sure, not great on the ball (visions of McShane in particular panicking each time he was under pressure under Stam) but they knew how to win games 1-0 - something that's been really lacking these last few seasons. Sarr should have helped somewhat but even amongst our shambles at the back last season - he was one of the worst performers.

It's not just the CB's - lack of pressing intensity high up the pitch, lack of closing down all over the pitch, fullbacks allowing the crosses in, non-existent midfield etc etc. It's a collective issue but at the same time - the defence has to apportion a large amount of the blame for having one of the worst defensive records of the 92 in successive seasons.


I think we’ve also lacked an out and out holding midfielder and never really replaced Leigertwood.

Closest we got imho to a combative midfield was Rino & Laurent (with the added bonus of getting forward more) but Pauno oxf*rd that when he inexplicably disrupted the partnership by moving Rino more further forward.


Barely conceded a goal when rino/Laurent had that double pivot thing going on.

Got the impression the change was driven by Laurent who wanted to be further forward and Pauno gave in.

Yeah, it came a season earlier than CR says with Laurent pushed forward.

Pretty sure he did it in response to how few chances we created and that we were relying on Joao to take almost every chance in those first 8 games.

From then on the protection for the defence gradually vanished and when Joao lost all form from the penalty misses we had nothing.

Then the next season clowno decided Rino was a right winger, despite looking terrified the second he got near goal.

Pele wasn't perfect, but he was a pretty good DM. Certainly better than Semedo who just got played at 10, or Loum.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 31 Jul 2023 08:54

Yeah Pele was a pretty good player actually, one of the few successful loans we've had. Loum had a lot of potential to be good judging on his first few weeks but that never really materialised.

It's time like this where, if we need a new CB, can we move McIntyre into a holding midfield position? Effectively playing like a CB, he seems fairly comfortable with the ball at his feet as well. Get a couple of players to do the running in front of him, he'd be disciplined enough to stick to that area. Could easily make up a 3rd CB to allow both full backs to go forward as well.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by URZZZZ » 31 Jul 2023 09:49

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Can only happen if that debt is paid. So if this is the case then sounds hopeful

Button when he was very good was very much the ball playing keeper iirc. So quite possibly a hint of what how we’ll try to play


Need to be looking at a CB if/when this debt is paid. Holmes and McIntyre, collectively are too easy to play against. Not dominating or physically imposing enough. How many times do we concede from crosses (a problem dating back for a while now). Simply put, they don't keep clean sheets. You can't keep relying on scoring 2/3 a game to win. Will Dorsett/Abbey/Mbengue (who I do like) solve the issue? Not likely unfortunately

Game has somewhat evolved in recent years but two of our better defenders post Prem have been M.Morrison and McShane. Old school defenders. Sure, not great on the ball (visions of McShane in particular panicking each time he was under pressure under Stam) but they knew how to win games 1-0 - something that's been really lacking these last few seasons. Sarr should have helped somewhat but even amongst our shambles at the back last season - he was one of the worst performers.

It's not just the CB's - lack of pressing intensity high up the pitch, lack of closing down all over the pitch, fullbacks allowing the crosses in, non-existent midfield etc etc. It's a collective issue but at the same time - the defence has to apportion a large amount of the blame for having one of the worst defensive records of the 92 in successive seasons.


I think we’ve also lacked an out and out holding midfielder and never really replaced Leigertwood.

Closest we got imho to a combative midfield was Rino & Laurent (with the added bonus of getting forward more) but Pauno oxf*rd that when he inexplicably disrupted the partnership by moving Rino more further forward.


True. Best teams still play with a holding midfielder, Rodri, Partey, Fabinho etc etc. Even the presence of someone like VDB who was extremely erratic helped us. Ditto Loum at the start of the season.

Said it before but we do seem to end up with too many midfielders in the squad each season adding very little. Fornah, Hendrick, Dele Bashiru being the latest examples in the last couple of seasons. Difficult to say what they bring to the team


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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by under the tin » 31 Jul 2023 10:27

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Need to be looking at a CB if/when this debt is paid. Holmes and McIntyre, collectively are too easy to play against. Not dominating or physically imposing enough. How many times do we concede from crosses (a problem dating back for a while now). Simply put, they don't keep clean sheets. You can't keep relying on scoring 2/3 a game to win. Will Dorsett/Abbey/Mbengue (who I do like) solve the issue? Not likely unfortunately

Game has somewhat evolved in recent years but two of our better defenders post Prem have been M.Morrison and McShane. Old school defenders. Sure, not great on the ball (visions of McShane in particular panicking each time he was under pressure under Stam) but they knew how to win games 1-0 - something that's been really lacking these last few seasons. Sarr should have helped somewhat but even amongst our shambles at the back last season - he was one of the worst performers.

It's not just the CB's - lack of pressing intensity high up the pitch, lack of closing down all over the pitch, fullbacks allowing the crosses in, non-existent midfield etc etc. It's a collective issue but at the same time - the defence has to apportion a large amount of the blame for having one of the worst defensive records of the 92 in successive seasons.


I think we’ve also lacked an out and out holding midfielder and never really replaced Leigertwood.

Closest we got imho to a combative midfield was Rino & Laurent (with the added bonus of getting forward more) but Pauno oxf*rd that when he inexplicably disrupted the partnership by moving Rino more further forward.


True. Best teams still play with a holding midfielder, Rodri, Partey, Fabinho etc etc. Even the presence of someone like VDB who was extremely erratic helped us. Ditto Loum at the start of the season.

Said it before but we do seem to end up with too many midfielders in the squad each season adding very little. Fornah, Hendrick, Dele Bashiru being the latest examples in the last couple of seasons. Difficult to say what they bring to the team

Fully agreed.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Brogue » 31 Jul 2023 10:49

embargo will be lifted tomorrow, expect a flurry of signings

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Sutekh » 31 Jul 2023 11:12

Brogue embargo will be lifted tomorrow, expect a flurry of signings



Isn't the collective noun for signings a "Burns"?

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Hound » 01 Aug 2023 14:58

Is Brogue’s flurry of new signings still happening today. Bit bored and could do with something of interest

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Mid Sussex Royal » 01 Aug 2023 15:10

Hound Is Brogue’s flurry of new signings still happening today. Bit bored and could do with something of interest


Embargo still on EFL website sadly

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by blythspartan » 01 Aug 2023 15:20

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Hound Is Brogue’s flurry of new signings still happening today. Bit bored and could do with something of interest


Embargo still on EFL website sadly


I have never known Brogue to be wrong but on this occasion I can’t see any new signings happening today. Unless, the embargo disappears after 4pm.

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Re: Summer 2023 Transfer Speculation

by Royalwaster » 01 Aug 2023 15:31

Does Brogue actually have a source inside the club or is his source Twitter?

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