The generic transfer thread

[Brogue]

Isn't that more Forest-y? They (and their owner) seem to whine about everything

Yeh, this. He had a release clause, Spurs triggered it. Don't think Forest have anything to complain about.

Maranakis was whining because Spurs triggered the release clause but he was whining that how does anyone know about the release clause as a contract is private and confidential

And that’s a whole other kettle, just what is the point in a release clause, esp. if no-one knows about it?

He might have a point on tapping up as that seems to happen an awful lot despite being illegal in the game. My thought is why the hell is it illegal. In other professions you can be headhunted so why is football different? This window Bayern had apparently been talking to Wirtz, Napoli have supposedly agreed terms with Nunez and Real Madrid spend entire seasons getting into the head of any soon to be out of contract players and yet the parent club hasn’t agreed a fee or seemingly granted permission for an approach to the player.

His agent would know…

[Winston Biscuit]

Yeah isn't it standard that release clauses become known because its beneficial to the player for it to be known and so the agent leaks it?

[From Despair To Where?]

Or the brother of the Academy manager of the club looking to buy.

[Winston Biscuit]

Andy Carroll joins Dagenham & Redbridge

[Sanguine]

David Ornstein says that, whilst no formal bid has been submitted, Liverpool are testing the water on Alexander Isak, and have 'informed' Newcastle that they would be interested in a deal for the striker in the region of £120m.

Eintracht Frankfurt reject a £70m bid from Newcastle for Hugo Etikike. And Liverpool reject a bid of €67.5m from Bayern for Luis Diaz.

[Sanguine]

David Ornstein says that, whilst no formal bid has been submitted, Liverpool are testing the water on Alexander Isak, and have 'informed' Newcastle that they would be interested in a deal for the striker in the region of £120m.

Eintracht Frankfurt reject a £70m bid from Newcastle for Hugo Etikike. And Liverpool reject a bid of €67.5m from Bayern for Luis Diaz.

Sky Sports now reporting that Newcastle have swiftly told Liverpool that Isak is not for sale - and so Liverpool will turn their attentions to Hugo Etikike. It's a game of chess.

[Sutekh]

David Ornstein says that, whilst no formal bid has been submitted, Liverpool are testing the water on Alexander Isak, and have 'informed' Newcastle that they would be interested in a deal for the striker in the region of £120m.

Eintracht Frankfurt reject a £70m bid from Newcastle for Hugo Etikike. And Liverpool reject a bid of €67.5m from Bayern for Luis Diaz.

Sky Sports now reporting that Newcastle have swiftly told Liverpool that Isak is not for sale - and so Liverpool will turn their attentions to Hugo Etikike. It's a game of chess.

Sky Sports are way slow on their reporting, this game of chess has been going on for the last 6 months. Liverpool have made it clear they would like to take Isak off Newcastle’s hands several times while Newcastle have been saying they’re not interested several times. However P&S may ultimately dictate otherwise and if Liverpool offered Elliott in a p’ex as well it could get very interesting. And in any case I can’t see Newcastle saying anything other than no on selling Isak at the moment otherwise Frankfurt will be wanting to fleece them over a fee for Ekitike.

At the end of the day the Magpies will lose out somewhere with either Isak or Ekitike going to Liverpool.

[Sutekh]

David Ornstein says that, whilst no formal bid has been submitted, Liverpool are testing the water on Alexander Isak, and have 'informed' Newcastle that they would be interested in a deal for the striker in the region of £120m.

Eintracht Frankfurt reject a £70m bid from Newcastle for Hugo Etikike. And Liverpool reject a bid of €67.5m from Bayern for Luis Diaz.

Liverpool want €85m for Diaz and know there’s Saudi clubs that are ready to offer in excess of that too. Bayern really are having a cr@p window so far.

[Sanguine]

David Ornstein says that, whilst no formal bid has been submitted, Liverpool are testing the water on Alexander Isak, and have 'informed' Newcastle that they would be interested in a deal for the striker in the region of £120m.

Eintracht Frankfurt reject a £70m bid from Newcastle for Hugo Etikike. And Liverpool reject a bid of €67.5m from Bayern for Luis Diaz.

Sky Sports now reporting that Newcastle have swiftly told Liverpool that Isak is not for sale - and so Liverpool will turn their attentions to Hugo Etikike. It's a game of chess.

Sky Sports are way slow on their reporting, this game of chess has been going on for the last 6 months. Liverpool have made it clear they would like to take Isak off Newcastle’s hands several times while Newcastle have been saying they’re not interested several times. However P&S may ultimately dictate otherwise and if Liverpool offered Elliott in a p’ex as well it could get very interesting. And in any case I can’t see Newcastle saying anything other than no on selling Isak at the moment otherwise Frankfurt will be wanting to fleece them over a fee for Ekitike.

At the end of the day the Magpies will lose out somewhere with either Isak or Ekitike going to Liverpool.

Sky Sports Germany now saying Liverpool have tabled an informal bid for Isak, that they will make official only if given the green light by the club.

[RG30]

Liverpool played Newcastle brilliantly. You can either keep Isak and we'll go after Ekitike or sell us Isak and you are free to take Ekitike. Surely if you are Newcastle you cash in on Isak who has 3 years left on a contract he won't renew and go for the younger player.

[Sanguine]

I'm fascinated whether FSG suddenly spending like this represents coincidence, or that Klopp was in fact much more reticent to get behind player's suggest by their transfer committee.

[Sutekh]

Liverpool played Newcastle brilliantly. You can either keep Isak and we'll go after Ekitike or sell us Isak and you are free to take Ekitike. Surely if you are Newcastle you cash in on Isak who has 3 years left on a contract he won't renew and go for the younger player.

To be honest, if I was Newcastle I’d sell Isak, yes it might be to a rival but he has a pretty ropey injury record and the £130m or whatever it is would rather nicely do to get the asinine P&S cr@p off their backs so they can look to become a threat to the likes of Liverspud, Mancheater, Chavski and the 2nd place bottle collection.

[Sutekh]

I'm fascinated whether FSG suddenly spending like this represents coincidence, or that Klopp was in fact much more reticence to get behind player's suggest by their transfer committee.

Whether it’s deliberate or not I don’t know, but the utterly “cheap” windows they’ve had over the last few years with very little going on beyond just the very basic necessities to keep things ticking over has meant they can really hit a window at full pelt. Talk is they’re nowhere near falling foul of P&S even if the £130m move for Isak comes off. In fact some experts have said they could probably spent another £250m on top before things started getting squeaky. Even with a successful Isak deal I believe their spending this window only about matches what Mancheater have spent since 1st January

They’ve got money to come in too when they eventually get shot of Nunez, then there’s more when Diaz goes and god knows how much a top flight elite premier international footballer is insured for! After this Isak thing is sorted they’ll need to sort their central defence out with rumours of Inacio or Hato joining Guehi and Konate maybe being p’exed for Rodrygo. Liverpool could be very scary next season if Slot gets the tactics right and I presume this is no scatter gun Chavski style approach, there’ll be a plan at the back of it all.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Liverpool played Newcastle brilliantly. You can either keep Isak and we'll go after Ekitike or sell us Isak and you are free to take Ekitike. Surely if you are Newcastle you cash in on Isak who has 3 years left on a contract he won't renew and go for the younger player.

To be honest, if I was Newcastle I’d sell Isak, yes it might be to a rival but he has a pretty ropey injury record and the £130m or whatever it is would rather nicely do to get the asinine P&S cr@p off their backs so they can look to become a threat to the likes of Liverspud, Mancheater, Chavski and the 2nd place bottle collection.

Have to disagree. Ekitike is high potential but it will be a step up from Frankfurt to the PL. Isak has proven he's the real deal and is top tier when you rank the world's centre forwards. I'd take him over Kane, Lewandowski and Haaland.

If he wanted to move and started hinting at running down his contract that would move the dial, but there's no evidence of this. Newcastle are in the Champions League and when you look at their summer business it's not outlandish that they could start seriously challenging in the next 5 year or so (it's only PSR that has stopped them doing so under the Saudis already).

[Sutekh]

Liverpool played Newcastle brilliantly. You can either keep Isak and we'll go after Ekitike or sell us Isak and you are free to take Ekitike. Surely if you are Newcastle you cash in on Isak who has 3 years left on a contract he won't renew and go for the younger player.

To be honest, if I was Newcastle I’d sell Isak, yes it might be to a rival but he has a pretty ropey injury record and the £130m or whatever it is would rather nicely do to get the asinine P&S cr@p off their backs so they can look to become a threat to the likes of Liverspud, Mancheater, Chavski and the 2nd place bottle collection.

Have to disagree. Ekitike is high potential but it will be a step up from Frankfurt to the PL. Isak has proven he's the real deal and is top tier when you rank the world's centre forwards. I'd take him over Kane, Lewandowski and Haaland.

If he wanted to move and started hinting at running down his contract that would move the dial, but there's no evidence of this. Newcastle are in the Champions League and when you look at their summer business it's not outlandish that they could start seriously challenging in the next 5 year or so (it's only PSR that has stopped them doing so under the Saudis already).

One would presume though, that there has been some contact with the player’s entourage that encourages Liverpool to try an approach. Isak is in negotiations over a new deal with Newcastle so there maybe some leverage here too for Isak to screw United for a very good deal or he’ll just let his current deal run down.

[WestYorksRoyal]

To be honest, if I was Newcastle I’d sell Isak, yes it might be to a rival but he has a pretty ropey injury record and the £130m or whatever it is would rather nicely do to get the asinine P&S cr@p off their backs so they can look to become a threat to the likes of Liverspud, Mancheater, Chavski and the 2nd place bottle collection.

Have to disagree. Ekitike is high potential but it will be a step up from Frankfurt to the PL. Isak has proven he's the real deal and is top tier when you rank the world's centre forwards. I'd take him over Kane, Lewandowski and Haaland.

If he wanted to move and started hinting at running down his contract that would move the dial, but there's no evidence of this. Newcastle are in the Champions League and when you look at their summer business it's not outlandish that they could start seriously challenging in the next 5 year or so (it's only PSR that has stopped them doing so under the Saudis already).

One would presume though, that there has been some contact with the player’s entourage that encourages Liverpool to try an approach. Isak is in negotiations over a new deal with Newcastle so there maybe some leverage here too for Isak to screw United for a very good deal or he’ll just let his current deal run down.

And he's entitled to play hardball; as I said, he's proven himself as one of the best in the world. So yes, decision time for Newcastle. But if their owners want to make them the next City, pay up.

[Sutekh]

Have to disagree. Ekitike is high potential but it will be a step up from Frankfurt to the PL. Isak has proven he's the real deal and is top tier when you rank the world's centre forwards. I'd take him over Kane, Lewandowski and Haaland.

If he wanted to move and started hinting at running down his contract that would move the dial, but there's no evidence of this. Newcastle are in the Champions League and when you look at their summer business it's not outlandish that they could start seriously challenging in the next 5 year or so (it's only PSR that has stopped them doing so under the Saudis already).

One would presume though, that there has been some contact with the player’s entourage that encourages Liverpool to try an approach. Isak is in negotiations over a new deal with Newcastle so there maybe some leverage here too for Isak to screw United for a very good deal or he’ll just let his current deal run down.

And he's entitled to play hardball; as I said, he's proven himself as one of the best in the world. So yes, decision time for Newcastle. But if their owners want to make them the next City, pay up.

Liverpool obviously see Isak as the best in that position that fits in with their style and are willing to pay the "over the odds" price that Newcastle would want. If Newcastle do refuse to play ball then they could be left with a very hacked off player, who may see Liverpool as his chance to actually win notable things, while remaining heavily constrained by P&S making it difficult to become a club that actually might win something of note. It would appear to be a situation a little similar to Liverpool themselves, who were pretty much stuck until Barcelona paid over the odds for Coutinho.

So decision time indeed.

[From Despair To Where?]

Liverpool played Newcastle brilliantly. You can either keep Isak and we'll go after Ekitike or sell us Isak and you are free to take Ekitike. Surely if you are Newcastle you cash in on Isak who has 3 years left on a contract he won't renew and go for the younger player.

To be honest, if I was Newcastle I’d sell Isak, yes it might be to a rival but he has a pretty ropey injury record and the £130m or whatever it is would rather nicely do to get the asinine P&S cr@p off their backs so they can look to become a threat to the likes of Liverspud, Mancheater, Chavski and the 2nd place bottle collection.

Have to disagree. Ekitike is high potential but it will be a step up from Frankfurt to the PL. Isak has proven he's the real deal and is top tier when you rank the world's centre forwards. I'd take him over Kane, Lewandowski and Haaland.

If he wanted to move and started hinting at running down his contract that would move the dial, but there's no evidence of this. Newcastle are in the Champions League and when you look at their summer business it's not outlandish that they could start seriously challenging in the next 5 year or so (it's only PSR that has stopped them doing so under the Saudis already).

Someone was telling me the other day that Ekiteke has the worst Expected Goals rating of any forward to get into double figures in the top 5 leagues last season.

Whilst I don't place too much faith in Expected Goals, it does suggest there are better options out there.

[Royal Rother]

Nicolas Jackson

[Sanguine]

The suggested €80m for Etikike is a huge fee for a 23 year old who isn't yet capped by his country.