Alfie's perfectly good goal today

[JR]

The referees interpretation of the handball law is nonsense.

Alfie scored a perfectly good goal today after Pog handled by accident.

It would never have been a pen if in our area, so why a free kick against Pog when in an attacking position?

Would have changed the game in our favour.

[Twin Lake]

Clutching at straws here. I think the ref had every right to stop the game and I'm not sure Alfie would have had the chance he did if Stoke's players didn't stop.

[SPARTA]

Right or wrong, it was a handball, and it lead to a goal. There would have been outrage had it been given. We'd have gone mental if the shoe was on the other foot.

[Wimb]

Right or wrong, it was a handball, and it lead to a goal. There would have been outrage had it been given. We'd have gone mental if the shoe was on the other foot.

This. End thread.

[Wycombe Royal]

It is only handball if it is deliberate, at least I think that is what the laws of the game. I haven't seen it though so I have no idea if it was deliberate.

[Ian Royal]

By the laws it's not handball. By the way referees have been calling handballs for years it was a definite freekick.

[SCIAG]

I haven't seen it so I don't know if it would be classed as deliberate.

What about the "penalty"? Yes or no?

[Ian Royal]

I haven't seen it so I don't know if it would be classed as deliberate.

What about the "penalty"? Yes or no?

Maybe.

Wasn't stonewall in the slightest. Similar challenges have been punished on plenty of other occasions. No surprise it wasn't given. Especially as the last kick of the game.

[Man Friday]

I haven't seen it so I don't know if it would be classed as deliberate.

What about the "penalty"? Yes or no?

Maybe.

Wasn't stonewall in the slightest. Similar challenges have been punished on plenty of other occasions. No surprise it wasn't given. Especially as the last kick of the game...

...and, moreover, at their place

...and would lead to a mauling from Pullis

...and would have meant that a team undeserving of achieving a draw would have got one

...and we're Reading.

[Royal91]

People get annoyed with handballs/freekicks because refs are so inconsistent!

After the Suarez goal against Mansfield didn't the ref say it wasn't deliberate so it wasn't handball?

If we are working under that premise then why are so many inconsistent decisions giving. If Pog hand-balled it our area in that manner I'm sure a penalty would have been given.

The ball was smashed at him from 2 yards away so surely it was play.

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It was a penalty but far from stonewall! The penalty box has different rules to the rest of the pitch and smaller teams don't get big decisions. The reality is at Old Trafford that would have been a penalty!

Bloody good finish though!

[Man Friday]

People get annoyed with handballs/freekicks because refs are so inconsistent!

After the Suarez goal against Mansfield didn't the ref say it wasn't deliberate so it wasn't handball?

If we are working under that premise then why are so many inconsistent decisions giving. If Pog hand-balled it our area in that manner I'm sure a penalty would have been given.

The ball was smashed at him from 2 yards away so surely it was play.

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It was a penalty but far from stonewall! The penalty box has different rules to the rest of the pitch and smaller teams don't get big decisions. The reality is at Old Trafford that would have been a penalty!

Bloody good finish though!

The small clubs should start the season with a 6-point handicap and then referees should be fair from then onwards and not be swayed by the Man Us and Cheatskis etc. It would save all the messing around and hippocracy.

[grey_squirrel]

I haven't seen it so I don't know if it would be classed as deliberate.

What about the "penalty"? Yes or no?

Maybe.

Wasn't stonewall in the slightest. Similar challenges have been punished on plenty of other occasions. No surprise it wasn't given. Especially as the last kick of the game...

...and, moreover, at their place

...and would lead to a mauling from Pullis

...and would have meant that a team undeserving of achieving a draw would have got one

...and we're Reading.

Am getting sick and tired of the comments "if it was anywhere else on the pitch, it would have been a certain foul/free kick"

How many times has that complete load of B/S been used to deny us a penalty this season? At least 4 or 5 that I can think of.

Just why the hell is this?!?! Does the penalty area have it's own rules?!?!?

I don't think enough fuss is being kicked up over this.

If it means on average 7 penalties are given each game, then so be it.

It's this sort of inconsistency that makes me mad

[windermere_royal]

Wigan, yesterday. Ba`s handled goal, Torres`s offside goal , Barry`s dubious goal.
thats 6 possible points we`ve been denied this season by useless officials

[Ouroboros]

Wigan, yesterday. Ba`s handled goal, Torres`s offside goal , Barry`s dubious goal.
thats 6 possible points we`ve been denied this season by useless officials

What about the points they've handed us, like the two penalties Everton were denied?

[windermere_royal]

Wigan, yesterday. Ba`s handled goal, Torres`s offside goal , Barry`s dubious goal.
thats 6 possible points we`ve been denied this season by useless officials

What about the points they've handed us, like the two penalties Everton were denied?

i think the decisions we`ve been denied far outweigh the ones in our favour, can you give me any more examples?

[Ouroboros]

Wigan, yesterday. Ba`s handled goal, Torres`s offside goal , Barry`s dubious goal.
thats 6 possible points we`ve been denied this season by useless officials

What about the points they've handed us, like the two penalties Everton were denied?

i think the decisions we`ve been denied far outweigh the ones in our favour, can you give me any more examples?

Le Fondre handling the ball over the line against Newcastle?

Perhaps we are owed a decision or two, but let's count both sides of the ledger, eh?

[royalZILLAAA]

No way was that Le Fondre goal at Newcastle a handball.

[Ian Royal]

i think the decisions we`ve been denied far outweigh the ones in our favour, can you give me any more examples?

Le Fondre handling the ball over the line against Newcastle?

Perhaps we are owed a decision or two, but let's count both sides of the ledger, eh?

might want to count it accurately then royalzilla says, ALF's 1st goal at Newcastle was never handball in a million years.



Seeing as no one pays attention to deliberate anymore I'd like to see some changes to the laws on them. Maybe more use of indirect freekicks for those not deliberate / no clear advantage gained incidents.

[SCIAG]

i think the decisions we`ve been denied far outweigh the ones in our favour, can you give me any more examples?

I was keeping track. In recent weeks I think the decisions haven't influenced the result (like the McAnuff penalty against Sunderland that wasn't given).

1 point dropped away to Chelsea- Torres not given offside
2 points dropped home to Newcastle- Ba handball
1 point dropped away to Southampton- penalty not given for foul on Tabb
3 points dropped away to Man City- Barry goal given despite clear foul, penalty not given for handball
Knocked out of the League Cup- Hunt penalty not given, full time whistle not blown
1 point gained away to QPR- QPR denied penalty after a push from Morrison
2 points gained at home to Everton- penalty not given despite blatant foul by Gorkss (Gorkss lucky to stay on the pitch as he was booked on another occasion)

Neutral- Wigan (Di Santo goal incorrectly disallowed, penalty not given for foul on Tabb), Aston Villa (Benteke goal stood, penalty not given for foul by Mariappa), Man United (Van Persie goal crossed the line, penalty not given)

If the goal shouldn't have been disallowed and we should have had a penalty then that's three points dropped away to Stoke, making 7 points dropped in total plus being knocked out of the League Cup. I still haven't seen either decision though.

[Ouroboros]

i think the decisions we`ve been denied far outweigh the ones in our favour, can you give me any more examples?

Le Fondre handling the ball over the line against Newcastle?

Perhaps we are owed a decision or two, but let's count both sides of the ledger, eh?

might want to count it accurately then royalzilla says, ALF's 1st goal at Newcastle was never handball in a million years.



Seeing as no one pays attention to deliberate anymore I'd like to see some changes to the laws on them. Maybe more use of indirect freekicks for those not deliberate / no clear advantage gained incidents.

he practically threw it in, but whatever.